Gibbons: "Pompey would be Blue Jays CF if season started today"

[shortstop]

not to mention the ugh outfield offence of Pompey, Pillar, Gose and say Dirks/Mayberry.

[saskjayfan]

not to mention the ugh outfield offence of Pompey, Pillar, Gose and say Dirks/Mayberry.

 

Dirks and Pompey are at least intriguing options though. Both are high risk, high reward. Gronkowski has had a pretty good year after having back surgery. Dirks could bounce back and play very well, or he could be a complete bust. He's cheap though....I'm glad we're rolling the dice on dirks.

[Dick_Pole]

Does Gose's bat play in right field for you? Cause that's were it might be!

 

Especially if we get no upgrades to 2nd or 3rd this off season and I really believe Bautista might start at third!

 

I'd rather just stick Gose at third than Bautista lol

[Dick_Pole]

I think you mean 10 man pitching staffs.

 

I miss the days of 9 man pitching staffs...4 starters and 5 relievers where pitchers were men and a 91 MPH fastball was considered plus stuff.

 

Now they're just replaceable shoulders. I hope we eventually see a movement back to Maddux and Buehrle types where pitchers are valued for their durability, brains and fielding more that how fast they can throw a pitch. They're going to have to if teams put so much investment into young fireballers and they keep blowing out their shoulders. The FIP movement is fine, but you can strike guys out with more than just heat.

[Deadpool]

I'd rather just stick Gose at third than Bautista lol

 

Anthony Robert Gose

 

Position: Outfielder

Bats: Left, Throws: Left

 

(Yes, I realize it was a joke, I just thought I'd nip this in the bud before anyone took it seriously...)

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Third base puts a lot more stress on Jose's body. He's getting older. He's our best hitter. His defense at 3rd is below average. His defense in RF is slightly better than average. There's almost zero chance that Jose will be at third.

 

Not sure I agree on the more stress debate! As short quick bust movements and shorter throws verses longer run and longer throws would both be equally as stressful or balance out. Think they use require and use different muscle fiber make up as fast twitch vs slow twitch ! Some people get injuries as a result of genetics! Bautista had less issues at third just saying!

[jaysblue]

And if the season started today, Ryan Goins would be the starting second baseman again. Ugh!

[jaysblue]

Or pray for a LF Platoon, lol......2005 and 06, are still strong.

 

One of the best platoons (Cat/Johnson) utilized in recent memory. I usually don't thank your posts, though I just did.

[KingKat]

And if the season started today, Ryan Goins would be the starting second baseman again. Ugh!

 

Maicer.

[kgm1]

I'm sticking to what I have said all offseason that it is Pompey,s job to lose. If your bringing the best team north then they won't worry about super two. As for LF Dirks is the big question mark . I have it a Mayberry/ Gose platoon but if Dirks is healthy who knows.

[Dick_Pole]

I'm sticking to what I have said all offseason that it is Pompey,s job to lose. If your bringing the best team north then they won't worry about super two. As for LF Dirks is the big question mark . I have it a Mayberry/ Gose platoon but if Dirks is healthy who knows.

 

I recognize that you're making lemonade with lemons with this scenario, but Gose in this situation really doesn't make sense. His bat doesn't play well for LF and his defensive skills won't be maximized in that position. Plus platooning him doesn't really make sense since he's kind of s*** against both sides of the plate although against LHP he is worse in a little over 100 PA. You don't tailor your team around an optimized Mayberry platoon, he's replaceable. You tailor the team as best as possible to the guys who you think can add value, and that in theory should be Gose.

 

I hope Gose is the man for CF starting in 2015 and he earns the job with good defense and adequate offense, not given by default if Pompey ends up proven too green in the spring. But if he doesn't, a platoon LF is not what he is made for. You're better off just shipping him out in a trade. Gose is one of two things. Either starting CF or 4th OF/pinch runner/defensive replacement when needed. Not platoon LF. There's a pretty good chance he turns into a negative WAR player in left and if we've seen him sulk before, it will be 10x as bad then.

[Jimcanuck]

Jays can't do to Gose what they did to Snider. Jerk him around, Toronto to AAA and back again, and back to AAA, etc.

 

Plant Gose in CF and let him work through the struggles every young player has.

[Mikeleelop]

No way gose "wins" job in spring. He's played long enough to know what you have. A good/great defensive outfielder. He hits with very little power and strikes out way too much. That is not going to change. It's what he is. Plus he runs well but bunts poorly and has a poor success rate stealing bases. That is a fourth outfielder if u have nothing better

 

Pompey right now would start in cf. gibbons has publicly said that. His hit tool is good with above average power for cf. defense is very good - Gold glove potential Jim callis said today.

 

Pompey is the superior player now. Never mind the future. He's better today. That shiowed in September with the quality of the ab we saw from pompey

[Mikeleelop]

Jays can't do to Gose what they did to Snider. Jerk him around, Toronto to AAA and back again, and back to AAA, etc.

 

Plant Gose in CF and let him work through the struggles every young player has.

 

Gose is not just struggling. He's showing what type of player he is. Look at his career stats in the minors

[Jimcanuck]

Gose is not just struggling. He's showing what type of player he is. Look at his career stats in the minors

 

He only needs to OBP .320 or so to be a 2 WAR player over a full season. His OBP was .311 in 2014.

 

Pompey's arm is better suited for LF.

[Mikeleelop]

He only needs to OBP .320 or so to be a 2 WAR player over a full season. His OBP was .311 in 2014.

 

Pompey's arm is better suited for LF.

 

Pompey is a cf. he plays excellent defense. Gose does not make enough contact to be a first division regular

[KingKat]

Jays can't do to Gose what they did to Snider. Jerk him around, Toronto to AAA and back again, and back to AAA, etc.

 

Plant Gose in CF and let him work through the struggles every young player has.

 

Gose is out of options. If they sent him to AAA, he could opt out altogether.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Gose is out of options. If they sent him to AAA, he could opt out altogether.

 

Then just trade the Rat now!

[kgm1]

Gose is out of options. If they sent him to AAA, he could opt out altogether.

 

Which is exactly why i still keep him even if Pompey wins the CF job . Either Pillar and Gose make the team or Gose and Pompey. One of Pillar or Pompey should be in AAA as they have options

[Deadpool]

Gibbons is a tool and should really just keep his mouth shut. This is the guy that plays Rasmus in CF in front of Gose. After being blocked by Rasmus for the last couple seasons Gose will get his turn. It might be short lived,if his bat doesn't improve,but for the start of the 2015 season i think Gose is already penciled in.

 

You do realize that Rasmus is a significantly better player than Gose right? Anyone starting Gose over Rasmus is either being told to from on high, or has severe head trauma.

 

Jays can't do to Gose what they did to Snider. Jerk him around, Toronto to AAA and back again, and back to AAA, etc.

 

Plant Gose in CF and let him work through the struggles every young player has.

 

Gose hasn't ever shown that he had more than upside... Snider at least put up good (great) numbers in the minors... I don't want to let Gose walk, he'll be a very serviceable 4th OF who gets zero ABs and hopefully can pinch run without his brain exploding from all the stimuli of thinking about the next base AND the pitcher, but that's about it.

 

One day Gose may learn to take a walk, and get on base at a non-terrible clip, but that day ain't 2015 by my reckoning...

[Atothe]

Short of calling AA a fat pos Gose is making the team, being out of options assures him of that

[Angrioter]

Gose case:

1- Out of options; can't be sent down to the minors

2- Low trade value. it's better option in the team than trade him for s***.

3- You have to play him, and developing his game.

[RealAccountant]

Man that Halladay trade was botched.

[RealAccountant]

Gose should be in LF.

[KingKat]

Man that Halladay trade was botched.

 

Really wouldn't be so bad if the Jays had held on to D'Arnaud. He was the best prospect the Phillies had and he would be a great fit on this team. Gose + Drabek + half of R.A. Dickey really sucks as a return though.

[o2cui2i]

Gose should be in LF.

 

Gose will spend his entire existence in the proverbial Left field. physically he's elite but he's short bus special and there is no getting around that.... you just cant fix stupid.

 

[o2cui2i]

Gose case:

1- Out of options; can't be sent down to the minors

2- Low trade value. it's better option in the team than trade him for s***.

3- You have to play him, and developing his game.

 

unless you can get Gose a brain transplant he's a waste of space

[jayswin11]

If the lineup was solid 1-8, Gose would be a great guy to slot in #9 and just play great CF.

[jayswin11]

What about Aoki for LF next year. MLBTR predicting 2 year deal total of $16 mil

[Atothe]

unless you can get Gose a brain transplant he's a waste of space

 

Wow you really have a hate hard-on for Gose. Re-evaluate That, its way too much