Jays claim Andy Dirks

[reedjohnsonfan]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/10/blue-jays-claim-andy-dirks.html

 

New leftfielder?

[Abomination]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/10/blue-jays-claim-andy-dirks.html

 

New leftfielder?

 

That's a nice little pickup, provided he's not playing every day.

[wardhenke1]

First Smoak, then Hendricks and now Dirks. Is there a new minor league division being created that we don't know about yet?

[Governator]

That's a solid freebie.

[KingKat]

He actually fits an area of need.

[burlingtonbandit]

Not a bad gamble to take. I doubt he's healthy tho if Detroit was willing to let him go for nothing.

[KingKat]

Not a bad gamble to take. I doubt he's healthy tho if Detroit was willing to let him go for nothing.

 

Yeah that's the catch but given how inexperienced the projected 2015 outfield is, a DL stashee might still be a good idea.

[AdamGreenwood]

I love the direction this team is taking.

Replacing Melky and Lind with Smoak and Dirks will save us a ton of money, which can be used to increase the dividend to Rogers shareholders.

[kgm1]

I love the direction this team is taking.

Replacing Melky and Lind with Smoak and Dirks will save us a ton of money, which can be used to increase the dividend to Rogers shareholders.

 

AA was given a 3 year mandate, They wanted him to go a year earlier and he said it was too early. It was still too early but he did it and then Rogers put a halt and now they are pulling the plug. I hope future GM,s learn a lesson from this when the rebuild starts.

 

If AA was given a mandate to rebuild right now trading the assets he has the jays could be younger and better in 3 years ,but unfortunately Rogers will not allow him to do that

[Abomination]

AA was given a 3 year mandate, They wanted him to go a year earlier and he said it was too early. It was still too early but he did it and then Rogers put a halt and now they are pulling the plug. I hope future GM,s learn a lesson from this when the rebuild starts.

 

What lesson exactly is that? If the bosses wanted him to do it the previous year, they were probably a little firmer about it the next year. If he refused, he's probably fired on the spot.

[kgm1]

Rogers did this to JP Riccardi too . He told them they couldn't afford Wells. He was dead against signing Wells. They gave him a budget and said it did not include the Wells deal then pull the rug out from him. I see a pattern here with Rogers. I hated JPR but he was right in the Wells decision.

 

I would suggest the next GM see this history and not go whole hog like AA did when ownership wants to make a splash ie the Mets trade.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Rogers did this to JP Riccardi too . He told them they couldn't afford Wells. He was dead against signing Wells. They gave him a budget and said it did not include the Wells deal then pull the rug out from him. I see a pattern here with Rogers. I hated JPR but he was right in the Wells decision.

 

I would suggest the next GM see this history and not go whole hog like AA did when ownership wants to make a splash ie the Mets trade.

 

From what I have heard, JPR was totally on board for the Wells signing.

[shortstop]

good to see AA consistent with his shift towards healthier players

 

but question is - if he performs as he did in 2013 for $1.5M, this is a good move no? ok on the offensive side, solid defender...

 

outfield of Dirk in left, Bautista in right & platoon of Gose/Pillar/Pompey

 

and I'd take the savings on the Melk Man and use it elsewhere...

[KingKat]

If he's healthy, a Dirks/Pompey/Bautista OF with Gose as the pinch runner/defensive replacement/4th OF and Pillar as MiLB depth works pretty well for me.

[reedjohnsonfan]

You heard wrong. JPR wanted to trade Wells Uncle Teddy and Godfrey said no dice.

 

What's your source on this? I think this might be the most mistaken belief about J.P. Ricciardi.

[KingKat]

If he's healthy, a Dirks/Pompey/Bautista OF with Gose as the pinch runner/defensive replacement/4th OF and Pillar as MiLB depth works pretty well for me.

 

Another options would be to keep Pompey in the minors and have Pillar spell one of Gose or Dirks against LHP.

[KingKat]

Dollars to doughnuts it's a Pillar/Dirks platoon in left and Gose as starting CF.

 

I would really like some kind of configuration that doesn't feature Pillar. Players that aren't that good and still have options shouldn't be breaking camp with the MLB team.

[KingKat]

Could be Dirks/Mayberry. Pompey and Pillar would both need an outstanding spring to make the 25 man imo.

 

I keep mentally blocking out Mayberry but I guess depth is depth.

[Chappy]

If Dirks comes in healthy this is an excellent pickup. He is a good defender and he handles RHP and LHP almost equally, so he isn't only a platoon option. He would be an excellent 4th OF.

[kgm1]

What's your source on this? I think this might be the most mistaken belief about J.P. Ricciardi.

 

I don't have a source. googled it and all I got was "" Long been rumored that Riccardi was not the one who spearheaded the Wells signing "" However I well remember the signing and Riccardi stating early in the year that the Jays could not commit that much of their budget to one player which was true. Godfrey and rogers then raised the budget dramatically and the Wells deal was done. Rogers was worried about the impact that losing Wells would do to attendance and TV viewership.

 

Much as I hated JPR that was one deal he was right on.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I don't have a source. googled it and all I got was "" Long been rumored that Riccardi was not the one who spearheaded the Wells signing "" However I well remember the signing and Riccardi stating early in the year that the Jays could not commit that much of their budget to one player which was true. Godfrey and rogers then raised the budget dramatically and the Wells deal was done. Rogers was worried about the impact that losing Wells would do to attendance and TV viewership.

 

Much as I hated JPR that was one deal he was right on.

 

You could be right. I had an inside source tell me that was a load of crap, but hey, that doesn't prove anything either.

[Abomination]

I keep mentally blocking out Mayberry but I guess depth is depth.

 

A Mayberry / Lind platoon is an excellent option, but neither has much value defensively (although I think Lind's excellent ability to scoop the ball at first makes up for his poor range a little). It's tough to roster multiple guys best suited to platoon DH. At least Dirks doesn't fit that mold.

[Chappy]

Dirks has a career 99 wRC+ vs LHP Mayberry has a 130 wRC+. Pretty tough to justify that big a swing. He might be better defensively but it won't make up enough, especially in left field.

 

Against LHP sure, but that's all Mayberry is good for.

[kgm1]

Jays now have Dirks, Gose, Bautista, Mayberry, out of Options and Pompey and Pillar with options. Certainly AA has built depth if Melky doesn't accept a QO which most feel he won't but not all of Dirks, Mayberry and Valencia will make the team. Dirks can't play CF, at least not well.

 

With Lawrie,s health I see Valencia making the team and I still think Pompey plays everyday in the majors so it will be interesting to see if Mayberry gets cut.

[Chappy]

Jays now have Dirks, Gose, Bautista, Mayberry, out of Options and Pompey and Pillar with options. Certainly AA has built depth if Melky doesn't accept a QO which most feel he won't but not all of Dirks, Mayberry and Valencia will make the team. Dirks can't play CF, at least not well.

 

With Lawrie,s health I see Valencia making the team and I still think Pompey plays everyday in the majors so it will be interesting to see if Mayberry gets cut.

 

I would be shocked if Pompey breaks camp with the Jays.

[Chappy]

He is what he is. Platoon 1B,LF,DH against lefties.

 

Yup and I am fine with that. Have him platoon 1B/LF/DH and PH and you have a very useful piece.

[kgm1]

I would be shocked if Pompey breaks camp with the Jays.

 

I won't be at all Vik. I think it is his job to lose in ST right now. Course that all depends on the budget and if Melky walks. If AA has more money than i think he has and can attract some free agents then I can see him at least starting in AAA. It would make sense but I still see the budget being cut and Pompey with a good ST would add the hype AA needs.

 

Wonder if the Royals would be interested in Lind. Rumor is they aren't going to exercise Butler,s option and they will need a starter too so dollars could be tight . not sure they would move a BP piece after their stellar playoff run.

[Dick_Pole]

This is my favourite move of the four fringy/injury prone/past their expiry date player acquisitions so far.

[Dick_Pole]

I love the direction this team is taking.

Replacing Melky and Lind with Smoak and Dirks will save us a ton of money, which can be used to maintain the dividend to Rogers shareholders.

 

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Rogers doesn't have the earnings power to increase the dividend.

[Dick_Pole]

good to see AA consistent with his shift towards healthier players

 

but question is - if he performs as he did in 2013 for $1.5M, this is a good move no? ok on the offensive side, solid defender...

 

outfield of Dirk in left, Bautista in right & platoon of Gose/Pillar/Pompey

 

and I'd take the savings on the Melk Man and use it elsewhere...

 

Not a bad idea, as long as the team doesn't carry 8 relief pitchers.