AA on Tim&Sid

[burlingtonbandit]

One of the most interesting things he said was that last year Cano's agent called him and were willing to do a 5 year deal at a much higher AAV than what he ultimately got but that it wouldn't of made sense at that high a number.

 

Also talked about the 5 year deal saying its not a be all end all. That he would take a player at 6/105 over 5/100, but I think this is fairly obvious.

[G-Snarls]

Yeah he's said that before. They just won't sign a Pujols/Cano/ARod/Fielder contract and I don't blame them one bit. I don't want them to.

 

It's the quality mid tier free agents he's been failing to sign that bothers me.

[immature]

Did Sid ask any tough questions? He seems to be one of the only guys in Toronto sports media who has been openly critical of AA.

[Arkadium]

One of the most interesting things he said was that last year Cano's agent called him and were willing to do a 5 year deal at a much higher AAV than what he ultimately got but that it wouldn't of made sense at that high a number.

 

Also talked about the 5 year deal saying its not a be all end all. That he would take a player at 6/105 over 5/100, but I think this is fairly obvious.

 

I'm sure his agent called almost every team to try and get the highest (ridiculous contract).

[burlingtonbandit]

Yeah he's said that before. They just won't sign a Pujols/Cano/ARod/Fielder contract and I don't blame them one bit. I don't want them to.

 

It's the quality mid tier free agents he's been failing to sign that bothers me.

 

It to me sounds like they will come up with a "value" and won't budge on that value of free agents. Sometimes you may have to overpay a little bit to get the player you wan't. That being said this interview left me feeling a bit better than yesterday's media scrum. I still hate the talk about relievers being valued so higher. If you upgrade 2B and get a good LF the reliever performance will be better just because the defence will be better.

[burlingtonbandit]

Did Sid ask any tough questions? He seems to be one of the only guys in Toronto sports media who has been openly critical of AA.

 

Both of them asked some good questions that seemed to get AA to open up a little bit (still dances around questions but not as much as usual). Tim & Sid are so much better at interviewing guests than Bobcat. I hate how PTS gets all the guests only to hear s***** questions and get nothing from the interview.

[RealAccountant]

I would like to know that Cano AAV number, because I am sure that it would still have been better than the current Reyes deal. Even at $35M a year

[G-Snarls]

It to me sounds like they will come up with a "value" and won't budge on that value of free agents. Sometimes you may have to overpay a little bit to get the player you wan't. That being said this interview left me feeling a bit better than yesterday's media scrum. I still hate the talk about relievers being valued so higher. If you upgrade 2B and get a good LF the reliever performance will be better just because the defence will be better.

 

That's part of it yes. How he values free agents. Turf. Canada. 20 years of no playoffs. So many reasons for guys to NOT come here.

 

If you really need an Annibal Sanchez or Asdrubal Cabrera or Jose Abreu or a Brian McCann (all guys that he should have been hard after) you have to pay. And that's the caliber of player he SHOULD be after. Not Cano or Scherzer cause they'll get stupid contracts, but that quality second tier.

[immature]

I just wish someone would ask him something along the lines of "What do you think of N.Y and Miami trades now" or "How do you justify keeping your job when you have a worse overall record than J.P and substantially more money to acquire players".

[burlingtonbandit]

That's part of it yes. How he values free agents. Turf. Canada. 20 years of no playoffs. So many reasons for guys to NOT come here.

 

If you really need an Annibal Sanchez or Asdrubal Cabrera or Abreu or a McCann (all guys that he should have been hard after) you have to pay. And that's the caliber of player he SHOULD be after. Not Cano or Scherzer cause they'll get stupid contracts, but that quality second tier.

 

Well I'm happy they didn't sign McCann with that contract. Even though he is a good framer you can get equal value by signing someone much cheaper. I really want Asdubal Cabrera but I have no idea how much he is going to cost. This offseason is going to be pretty interesting to say the least, with so many changes needed.

[NorthOf49]

Did he sound like someone who will go after James Shields?

[burlingtonbandit]

I just wish someone would ask him something along the lines of "What do you think of N.Y and Miami trades now" or "How do you justify keeping your job when you have a worse overall record than J.P and substantially more money to acquire players".

 

That question is pretty easy to answer even if you don't have PR training. Something along the lines of "Obviously the trades didn't work out the way we had hoped, but the players that have come in have been good contributors and have performed well. We are disappointed with the results from the team overall but we firmly believe those trades were made for a reason and we are committed to buliding a team..etc.

[burlingtonbandit]

Did he sound like someone who will go after James Shields?

 

No and with the money James Shields is going to cost I don't want to sign him. Part of the value of James Shields is that he is durable and with Dickey and Buehrle being just as durable you don't really need a James Shields for how this roster is constructed. The team's strength is the rotation and the team would be much better off spending money on 2B and LF.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

One of the most interesting things he said was that last year Cano's agent called him and were willing to do a 5 year deal at a much higher AAV than what he ultimately got but that it wouldn't of made sense at that high a number.

 

Also talked about the 5 year deal saying its not a be all end all. That he would take a player at 6/105 over 5/100, but I think this is fairly obvious.

Talk is cheap.... AA has shown no actual proof that he will budge from his idea that any free agent who won't sign a 1-year/$0 contract is "bad value." He spent last offseason making all sorts of promises and then did nothing to either improve the team or start to rebuild.

[burlingtonbandit]

Talk is cheap.... AA has shown no actual proof that he will budge from his idea that any free agent who won't sign a 1-year/$0 contract is "bad value." He spent last offseason making all sorts of promises and then did nothing to either improve the team or start to rebuild.

 

Out of all the big FA contracts handed out last year are there any that are going to be good value? I honestly don't blame him for signing some of these monster contracts, its the over valuing relievers that I am scared of. I actually think AA isn't a bad GM considering how good he has been with the farm system and signing great contracts with players already on the team. He is probably top 5 in MLB in that area, its the roster management that I think he struggles with.

[G-Snarls]

Out of all the big FA contracts handed out last year are there any that are going to be good value? I honestly don't blame him for signing some of these monster contracts, its the over valuing relievers that I am scared of. I actually think AA isn't a bad GM considering how good he has been with the farm system and signing great contracts with players already on the team. He is probably top 5 in MLB in that area, its the roster management that I think he struggles with.

 

When you have one or two huge needs and have a reasonable budget you sometimes have to overpay a bit to fill those needs. You don't need value on every contract.

 

And no one is advocating for a super mega deal. I don't want Max Scherzer or Zach Grienke at 175M. I wanted Annibal Sanchez at 80M. (Just as an example)

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Out of all the big FA contracts handed out last year are there any that are going to be good value? I honestly don't blame him for signing some of these monster contracts

I agree. One of the few things I like about AA is that he won't hand out contracts like the Pujols deal that everybody knows is horrible from day one. The problem is: a.) there's a happy medium between throwing a shitload of money at undeserving players and being deathly afraid to sign anybody at all, and b.) trading away assets for other teams' bad contracts has an even worse effect on your team than just overpaying free agents, but AA clearly doesn't realize that.

[burlingtonbandit]

When you have one or two huge needs and have a reasonable budget you sometimes have to overpay a bit to fill those needs. You don't need value on every contract.

 

And no one is advocating for a super mega deal. I don't want Max Scherzer or Zach Grienke at 175M. I wanted Annibal Sanchez at 80M. (Just as an example)

 

Yeah I really wanted that one too. I think they were in on him at the time but because they didn't want to be stuck with nothing went ahead with the Marlins deal and obviously in hindsight it looked awful. I think people underestimate the amount of luck in predicting performance. Theres been guys who I've been high on who for whatever reason s*** the bed the next season or don't live up to expectations. There's a huge amount of luck involved in any free agent signing.

[HERPDERP]

$240/10m with Seattle

 

Split that among 5 years, that's 48m per year.

[burlingtonbandit]

$240/10m with Seattle

 

Split that among 5 years, that's 48m per year.

 

I don't think it was nearly that high. Maybe 5/175.

[youngtea]

The problem with this team is not the players, but coaching. A career record of 462-472 demonstrates that he isn't a good coach. There have numerous players that have stepped out of the lucker room to show the lack of respect towards him. The team was rolling early this season and fell apart under his control.

 

Fire Gibbons and get a competent coach and you might actually make the playoffs next season.

[guylaroche5]

AA said that lind had his "best season since 2009" so yeah, he's pretty much a lock for next year

[jays4life19]

The problem with this team is not the players, but coaching. A career record of 462-472 demonstrates that he isn't a good coach. There have numerous players that have stepped out of the lucker room to show the lack of respect towards him. The team was rolling early this season and fell apart under his control.

 

Fire Gibbons and get a competent coach and you might actually make the playoffs next season.

 

Disagree.

 

Welcome to the board though.

[burlingtonbandit]

The problem with this team is not the players, but coaching. A career record of 462-472 demonstrates that he isn't a good coach. There have numerous players that have stepped out of the lucker room to show the lack of respect towards him. The team was rolling early this season and fell apart under his control.

 

Fire Gibbons and get a competent coach and you might actually make the playoffs next season.

 

lol nice try. Troll rating of 2/10. Id like to see much better effort next time.

[burlingtonbandit]

AA said that lind had his "best season since 2009" so yeah, he's pretty much a lock for next year

 

Could also be him boosting his trade value. AA also says he won't say his opinion of a player because it can alter their trade value and that they monitor players trade value in the media.

[youngtea]

lol nice try. Troll rating of 2/10. Id like to see much better effort next time.

 

No trolling. Just my viewpoint. Never understood why people were so high on Gibbons. He's had big arguments with players on every jays team he's coached.

[Dick_Pole]

I agree. One of the few things I like about AA is that he won't hand out contracts like the Pujols deal that everybody knows is horrible from day one. The problem is: a.) there's a happy medium between throwing a shitload of money at undeserving players and being deathly afraid to sign anybody at all, and b.) trading away assets for other teams' bad contracts has an even worse effect on your team than just overpaying free agents, but AA clearly doesn't realize that.

 

I think he very much realizes that. But he tries to overcome his weaknesses (adding veteran impact FA) by giving up part of his strengths (pretty good drafting/development track record, at least compared to the previous dolt). He's not stupid when he made those deals, he was half-assing his job trying to build a winner and paid for it with two mediocre seasons.

[Governator]

The problem with this team is not the players, but coaching. A career record of 462-472 demonstrates that he isn't a good coach. There have numerous players that have stepped out of the lucker room to show the lack of respect towards him. The team was rolling early this season and fell apart under his control.

 

Fire Gibbons and get a competent coach and you might actually make the playoffs next season.

 

 

I almost choked on my Cracker Jack.

[burlingtonbandit]

Stephen Brunt is on Tim&Sid right now as well and is talking about Beeston. Really interesting to hear him say (when talking if Beeston will be back) how Beeston is a guy that might not be a fit with the new technology driven Rogers since he is a guy that for better words is stuck in the past. Now I think we all knew this but to hear someone in the media finally say this is pretty interesting and could be telling.

 

Not sure why it would take this long. Beeston knows nothing about Technology and Rogers is trying to be innovative with watching games on phones and tablets etc...

[RealAccountant]

I don't think it was nearly that high. Maybe 5/175.

 

I seriously doubt it was even that high

 

If i had to guess I'd say it was like 160/5.

 

But the fans are going to dilute themselves and say he wanted the same money. This place is no shortage of AA defenders