Who's your pick for AL and NL MVP?

[GD]

If all the best pitch framers were in the MLB, the framing numbers would be more reasonable. But we have god-awful ones like Navarro employed.

[BTS]

I feel like people would have been debating walks in the same way 15-20 years ago when people were realizing that getting on base is important. I think everyone was taken by surprise when people started throwing around numbers like 20 and 30 runs above replacement-level for top framers. It didn't feel right, until you looked closer and wondered why you hadn't really thought about it before.

 

Walks weren't seen as being valuable until they were. Neither was framing. I guess the only difference is that the framing skill has the potential to cease being relevant with the arrival of roboumps, or at least until guys like Kratz are in the majors and guys like Navarro aren't.

[G-Snarls]

Jonathan Lucroy doesn't have that bod my friend.

 

But can Stanton turn 1,000 balls in to strikes? Noooo

 

So... Something

[reedjohnsonfan]

All this debate but it is still subjective as noted every season. Nobody can have a real valid disagreement with who should win it assuming the player is at least in the conversation. For me I'd still choose Kershaw and Brantley despite pages of debate.

[Boxcar]

All this debate but it is still subjective as noted every season. Nobody can have a real valid disagreement with who should win it assuming the player is at least in the conversation. For me I'd still choose Kershaw and Brantley despite pages of debate.

 

Didn't you just say that Kershaw was a no-brainer? That implies no debate.

[BTS]

All this debate but it is still subjective as noted every season. Nobody can have a real valid disagreement with who should win it assuming the player is at least in the conversation. For me I'd still choose Kershaw and Brantley despite pages of debate.

 

I honestly don't think there's a sound argument for choosing Brantley over Trout. Trout has been clearly and significantly better offensively, and plays CF as least as well (and probably better) than Brantley. Saying Brantley should win just seems like someone trying to be contrary.

[GD]

I honestly don't think there's a sound argument for choosing Brantley over Trout. Trout has been clearly and significantly better offensively, and plays CF as least as well (and probably better) than Brantley. Saying Brantley should win just seems like someone trying to be contrary.

 

Greenwood in 3,2...

[reedjohnsonfan]

Didn't you just say that Kershaw was a no-brainer? That implies no debate.

 

Sorry, you don't need to pick a fight here. Kershaw was a no-brainer for me, I didn't put IMO after so it came off differently than I anticipated.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I honestly don't think there's a sound argument for choosing Brantley over Trout. Trout has been clearly and significantly better offensively, and plays CF as least as well (and probably better) than Brantley. Saying Brantley should win just seems like someone trying to be contrary.

 

Yeah but what does "most valuable player" really mean? They got less than stellar performances from a lot of their offensive players and he was a breakout star who's kept them close.

[jaysblue]

http://peteryang.com/v02/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/130107_gq_trout_a.jpg

 

He's my AL MVP. I don't think Michael Brantley could look that good driving a pickup

Edited September 17, 2014 by jaysblue

[Vincent]

 

He's my AL MVP. I don't Michael Brantley could look that could driving a pickup

 

Dyslexia at it's best

[GD]

Dyslexia at it's best

 

Irony at its finest

[jays_fever]

Surprised no one mentioned Stanton's name. Lucroy should be a lock but Stanton should be a runner up, or at least should have been before he died

[TheHurl]

His updated projection is 7.1. At 6.7 now.

 

defense young man. Don't make the old guy school you on new fangled stuff.