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Jays acquire John Mayberry Jr. for Gustavo Pierre

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Orgfiller All-Star

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Guys, you're just talking. Talking, "la-la-la-la", like this is business as usual. It's not.

 

Basically, you need to hit well for a lot more PA's than what Mayberry Jr. has against lefties to be considered an actual platoon bat.

 

Example: Adam Lind. Lind has hit very well against RHP for more than 2700 PA's, therefore he should be considered a good platoon bat against those pitchers.

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Orgfiller

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I can't have this discussion.

 

You seem like someone that's had an account on here before, were you not around when we acquired Danny Valencia?

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Example: Adam Lind. Lind has hit very well against RHP for more than 2700 PA's, therefore he should be considered a good platoon bat against those pitchers.

 

What is the number of PA's vs a lefty when the numbers become relevant?

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I can't have this discussion.

 

http://www.breakingblue.ca/2014/01/16/blue-jays-true-talent-offensive-platoon-splits/

 

About 2200 PA's are needed to know a true talent of handedness. So Mayberry may not be (likely is not) a true talent 130 wRC against lefties. But I think we can say that he's better against lefties than Francisco, Lind and Gose.

 

The biggest part of this deal is the Mayberry's I believe will become the first father/son to play for the Jays. And we can hear Buck talk endlessly about his best friend and long time teammate John Mayberry Sr. Shoot us all now!

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Anthopoulos needs to change his strategy to only acquiring small and weak players, so that we don't have to hear the term "big and strong" from Tabler ever again.

 

Those guys are described as "scrappy, knows how to play the game, is a baseball player, does everything that he's asked" etc.

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http://www.breakingblue.ca/2014/01/16/blue-jays-true-talent-offensive-platoon-splits/

 

About 2200 PA's are needed to know a true talent of handedness. So Mayberry may not be (likely is not) a true talent 130 wRC against lefties. But I think we can say that he's better against lefties than Francisco, Lind and Gose.

 

It must be total PA's because there's only 2 RHH in baseball history to face lefties 2200+ times.

 

The biggest part of this deal is the Mayberry's I believe will become the first father/son to play for the Jays. And we can hear Buck talk endlessly about his best friend and long time teammate John Mayberry Sr. Shoot us all now!

 

I believe you. When acquiring players now there has to be some side story to every guy, it's f***ing lame.

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Those guys are described as "scrappy, knows how to play the game, is a baseball player, does everything that he's asked" etc.

 

Pat's just looking to get his dick sucked.

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Guys, you're just talking. Talking, "la-la-la-la", like this is business as usual. It's not.

 

Lmao. I just realized this was a Moneyball reference.

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So if they got Mayberry Jr. to platoon with Lind, what the f*** did they get Valencia for?

 

 

Seems like AA is now obsessed with platoons...

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Melky, Rasmus, Lind could all be gone next season. Mayberry is the insurance policy depending on whoever is not retained and could be the starting LF or back-up outfielder or DH.

 

Jays can;t sign free agents so they will have to find some scrap off the garbage dump and hope somebody is lightning in the ole bottle. That's the Jays for ya - always hoping someone will fluke into actually turning out to be a good player. Fingers crossed and a lot of hope.

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People assume hes here for platoon purposes. Honestly I don't see the purpose of him. Danny Valencia has faced both lefties and righties and hes been pretty much the everyday third baseman so he doesn't effect Lind at all.

 

 

It doesn't really matter as the season's over anyway. I hope he doesn't take at bats away from Pillar and Gose though. I'd rather those 2 get playing time. I'm assuming he'll get PH AB's.

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I don't mind this move. The Jays get rid of a crappy prospect for a decent MLB player. Let's see how this works out.
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So if they got Mayberry Jr. to platoon with Lind, what the f*** did they get Valencia for?

 

 

Seems like AA is now obsessed with platoons...

 

I realize this is only opinion, but I think now I have AA sort of figured out. He's so far over his head and nothing he did worked. So now he's looking at successful organizations and trying to copy them. First he started with the Red Sox and his attempts to bring in character guys and moving prospects through the system slowly. Then he tried the Dave Dombrowski/Pat Gillick and the huge splash trade. Then it was St. Louis and their usage of pitching prospects in the pen. Now it's Oakland and TB and their use of platoons (which may not be the case it might have much more to do with their inability to hit lefties early in the season). Of course all along the way he forgets about the most important thing to copy from many successful organizations is that you need to extract maximum value.

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Holy s***. Long time no see.

 

Yeah, busy as s*** right now. On the road a lot, took a new job, while starting a new online business as well. So I have no time for anything right now.

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So if they got Mayberry Jr. to platoon with Lind, what the f*** did they get Valencia for?

 

 

Seems like AA is now obsessed with platoons...

Platoon with Gose in CF?

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I realize this is only opinion, but I think now I have AA sort of figured out. He's so far over his head and nothing he did worked. So now he's looking at successful organizations and trying to copy them. First he started with the Red Sox and his attempts to bring in character guys and moving prospects through the system slowly. Then he tried the Dave Dombrowski/Pat Gillick and the huge splash trade. Then it was St. Louis and their usage of pitching prospects in the pen. Now it's Oakland and TB and their use of platoons (which may not be the case it might have much more to do with their inability to hit lefties early in the season). Of course all along the way he forgets about the most important thing to copy from many successful organizations is that you need to extract maximum value.

 

 

AA has applied to MLB to play with an expanded roster all year. He is crying the NO free agents want to play in Canada on turf and the canadian dollar is falling so the jays need to use platoons at many positions .

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AA is still praying to play some meaningful games in sept so instead of selling like he should have he buys a platoon bat. Dickey, Rasmus, Janssen, and others should have been pushed hard to make a deal.

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