MLB replay is failing hard

[Maahfaace]

Yet another travesty of the replay system tonight in the Braves/Mets game. The Jays (Melky the other night in Oak) and many other teams have been screwed over numerous times by this flawed system, considerably affecting the standings. I lost count on the league wide f***-ups. If they can't get the calls right on replay, I'd rather just live with the ump mistakes and get rid of this lethargic application of incompetence.

[John_Havok]

Yet another travesty of the replay system tonight in the Braves/Mets game. The Jays (Melky the other night in Oak) and many other teams have been screwed over numerous times by this flawed system, considerably affecting the standings. I lost count on the league wide f***-ups. If they can't get the calls right on replay, I'd rather just live with the ump mistakes and get rid of this lethargic application of incompetence.

 

I think if any play is deemed inconclusive, the runner should be safe. I'll have an article on the blog soon outlining why.

[Maahfaace]

What bothers me the most is that replays have shown the clear outcome, but still they are getting incorrect. I thought I heard that ump crews are rotating the booth for all umpires throughout the year. Is this true?

[comeon sense]

Umpires are ruining the game!

Now they have more help to ruin it further!

Anyone recall this stuff happening in a football game ,except for the Sea-gb debacle....no.

[shortstop]

They should have an explanation for each video replay - may not be satisfactory but provides more insight behind their call

[shortstop]

And not on the broadcast but on the mlb site

[KingKat]

They should have the umpires review their own plays like they do in football. The New York office is undrestandably sheepish about overturning umps but an ump has the benefit of knowing what they say and completing with what they didn't see on the screen. Only they have the full picture and if they see that they got something wrong, they will want to fix it.

[shortstop]

KK, I think it's implied but just making sure - as I understand it, it's an ump in New York reviewing the play...not a non-ump...I don't think an ump in New York has any issue overturning a call if it was the wrong call...conclusively of course...

 

on the one hand, having in-game upms review their own plays may be better; on the other hand, having an ump in New York review provides in theory complete objectivity...

[KingKat]

KK, I think it's implied but just making sure - as I understand it, it's an ump in New York reviewing the play...not a non-ump...I don't think an ump in New York has any issue overturning a call if it was the wrong call...conclusively of course...

 

on the one hand, having in-game upms review their own plays may be better; on the other hand, having an ump in New York review provides in theory complete objectivity...

 

Whether it's an ump or a non-ump in New York doesn't matter. He wasn't on the field, he didn't see the play. Why not let the ump that did see the play look at the review. I think an NFL style on-field review would be more effective. The ump knows exactly what he could or couldn't see during the play and can complete with the review. He's in the best position to determine whether the call should be upheld or not.

[shortstop]

KK, I think there's merit in that...

 

any link to any articles why mlb followed their route vs football route?

 

ultimately, I think mlb did so for 'uniformity', 'transparency' and 'objectivity'...and imo, "New York" was the way to go...

 

Bautista can complain New York stuck it to the jays, but he can never say the ump at the game did...I think there's significant merit to avoiding that, especially in baseball where these challenges happen all the time...

[z3r0s]

I assume that the reply guys look at the TV feed in making the calls. They need dedicated cameras from multiple angles on each base and on the foul lines. It would offer a far more consistent source of evidence. For a billion dollar industry, this isn't too much to ask.

[shortstop]

they'll constantly assess & try to get better at what they're doing...let's keep in mind this is year 1...it will get better...at same time, there will be disputes b/c the evidence isn't conclusive...making the right call without dispute from any team 95+ % of the time (I don't know the % but it must be awfully high) is pretty great

[NorthOf49]

I assume that the reply guys look at the TV feed in making the calls. They need dedicated cameras from multiple angles on each base and on the foul lines. It would offer a far more consistent source of evidence. For a billion dollar industry, this isn't too much to ask.

Exactly! I don't understand it. They should have dozens of high-speed cameras located around the infield and perhaps place sensors on the bags. Millions of dollars are at stake with each call.

[Governator]

Some of you are asking for a little bit much from a traditional game of baseball. I totally agree with if you're going to review it and have an angle that gives a commonsense result than go with it but it's an experimental year right now.

 

My opinion is pretty simple on the matter. I like getting calls right and I'm ok with a few missed ones. I feel no dugout should get to see the replays themselves before arguing a call. It's a massive waste of time and if a manager or player truly believe a missed call was made than make the call on the spot, get it reviewed and move on. Then if you're still not happy kick the dirt at the ump, steal a bag and give the fans some fireworks.

[KingKat]

Why would an outside, independent party be less willing to overturn a call than the person who initially made the call, and only stands to tell himself, and the world, that he was wrong in overturning the initial ruling? Human nature would argue against your suggestion.

 

You clearly don't undestand human nature. The replay will reveal whether the ump got the call right or wrong regardless. Only the most stuborn of idiots would then double down on their mistake. They would undoubtedly be more willing to fix their mistake because ultimately this gives them a chance to be right even if they were initially wrong. It's basically win-win. Either they get the call right or they get the review right. They literrally can't lose.

[z3r0s]

You clearly don't undestand human nature. The replay will reveal whether the ump got the call right or wrong regardless. Only the most stuborn of idiots would then double down on their mistake. They would undoubtedly be more willing to fix their mistake because ultimately this gives them a chance to be right even if they were initially wrong. It's basically win-win. Either they get the call right or they get the review right. They literrally can't lose.

 

You clearly just responded to Moogy... just say no KK.