JaysFanToTheEnd Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 You fire Beeston and the other two will get fired by his replacement. Rogers would then hire some yes man that's never even heard of baseball.
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 You fire Beeston and the other two will get fired by his replacement. Rogers would then hire some yes man that's never even heard of baseball. I'd probably rather have that then Beeston who thinks he knows baseball.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 I don't follow hockey so that went over my head. I'm assuming he sucked though since it's the Leafs. He more than micro-managed and was hands on. He let his political views and personal opinions ruin the team. He fought with players, coaches, management and the board.
DH12 Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 last 30 days Jays 9-19, Rays 17-12 (17 and 8 in the last 25)...uh oh! Anyone remember last July? Date the Rays pass the Jays??? I'll say August 24th. Absolutely the Rays finish ahead of the Jays this year
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Beeston is winning the poll by a large margin but can anyone with a considerable amount of certainty even say how much input he has in baseball ops?
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Beeston is winning the poll by a large margin but can anyone with a considerable amount of certainty even say how much input he has in baseball ops? He's the one who has to make the case to Rogers for payroll increases. So, he's definitely involved in some capacity. Get rid of them all. Slash and burn.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 He's the one who has to make the case to Rogers for payroll increases. Well by that measure he's a rousing success is he not?
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Ok, let's say someone offers you money if you can pick who will have more wins at the end of the season ( Rays or Jays ). Do you seriously pick the Rays ? No provisions just a straight up pick. Your scenario requires a lot of things to occur. Rays need to sweep the Jays at home ( anything less won't do ). Why would he do that? It's not like the Jays are Leafs bad. They're an average team. If Hurl were a gambling man, he'd need a price far better than even money on that proposition. His comment was obviously intended to rile up the likes of, well, you.
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Well by that measure he's a rousing success is he not? Until he failed to explain how a leveraged $5M investment at this time could be a very shrewd move. The "we're going to build a track team!!!!!!!" pitch only works in a few contexts.
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Why would he need better then even money ? You need to follow the narrative better, he thinks the Rays will pass the Jays in August. Given that eventuality, Rays would actually be better then even money in his eyes. Unfortunately, I don't think wagers can be made with any security, so it's all just hypothetical anyways. Unless I'm misreading the situation, I'm pretty sure his comment was tongue in cheek. I very much doubt he'd accept even money on that bet.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Until he failed to explain how a leveraged $5M investment at this time could be a very shrewd move. Well it sounds like they very well could add salary at the deadline. The "we're going to build a track team!!!!!!!" pitch only works in a few contexts. What do you mean? Did he say that?
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 What do you mean? Did he say that? I think so. It might have been in my nightmares however.
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 And the Rays catching the Jays is no extreme long shot anymore, it's very plausible. If Edwin's out for a month AND the Rays don't move either or Price or Zobrist, I still don't think it would be any higher than 40% or so.
Laika Community Moderator Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 Beeston. I believe (not necessarily firmly) that a lot of what ails the Blue Jays FO drips top-down from betwixt the crossed legs of this old coot.
Nox Verified Member Posted July 7, 2014 Posted July 7, 2014 What do you mean? Did he say that? So it wasn't just in my nightmares. It's also from Davidi and Lott's book. A relevant excerpt can be found here: http://bluejaymusings.mlblogs.com/tag/rogers/
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 Such a stupid thread. Funny, isn't it? Team's doing well and certain posters flat out disappear. Team is in a funk and they reappear. I guess they can't find a forum where they can discuss their favourite team so they come here to troll.
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