MLB 2014 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

[GD]

Marlins style trade with the Phillies ..... Get Lee, Ruiz, Byrd, Papelbon, Utley/Rollins

 

lol good luck with that

[G-Snarls]

Rangers are probably not going to make the playoffs this year. Gallo is a beast and will likely skip AAA. Adrian Beltre is 35 years old, and still very good, but they may not have a need for him anymore and he's due 18M next year. I'd love to have him and the Rangers MIGHT be willing to move him mid season if they're out of contention. What a great fit for 2014/2015 and move Lawrie to 2B permanently.

 

1B Encarnacion

2B Lawrie

SS Reyes

3B Beltre

 

What would the Rangers want for him???

[jays4life19]

Rangers are probably not going to make the playoffs this year. Gallo is a beast and will likely skip AAA. Adrian Beltre is 35 years old, and still very good, but they may not have a need for him anymore and he's due 18M next year. I'd love to have him and the Rangers MIGHT be willing to move him mid season if they're out of contention. What a great fit for 2014/2015 and move Lawrie to 2B permanently.

 

1B Encarnacion

2B Lawrie

SS Reyes

3B Beltre

 

What would the Rangers want for him???

 

It's a good idea, i just can't see the Rangers going into "sell mode" (f*** you 2nd wildcard). Although putting Beltre into our lineup would make this offense just downright scary. Rangers would want young controllable pitching i would imagine.

[G-Snarls]

It's a good idea, i just can't see the Rangers going into "sell mode" (f*** you 2nd wildcard). Although putting Beltre into our lineup would make this offense just downright scary. Rangers would want young controllable pitching i would imagine.

 

Yeah it depends on how the next month goes and how teams like Seattle and Anaheim do.

[DuckDuckGose]

Marlins style trade with the Phillies ..... Get Lee, Ruiz, Byrd, Papelbon, Utley/Rollins

 

The Phillies blockbuster I'd truly love to see is Lee + Hamels + Utley. I imagine it would take a pillaging of the farm though. A Sanchez + Norris + Barreto ++ kind of thing

[G-Snarls]

The Phillies blockbuster I'd truly love to see is Lee + Hamels + Utley. I imagine it would take a pillaging of the farm though. A Sanchez + Norris + Barreto ++ kind of thing

 

And another 60 million dollars in payroll. No way that happens.

[fireballW]

Beltre would be great, with even his personality fitting in on this team well. His defense doesn't seem to be close to what it used to though and Lawrie's (SSS) #s don't look very good for 2B. It would be a pretty big downgrade defensively. Really anything that moves Lawrie from 3B to 2B is a pretty big downgrade defensively. Would love Utley if his knees could handle it.

[fireballW]

Reyes

Cabrera

Bautista

Utley

Encarnacion

Lind

Lawrie

Rasmus

Navarro

 

This is a ridiculously tough lineup to get through.

[Ziggyy108]

Reyes

Cabrera

Bautista

Utley

Encarnacion

Lind

Lawrie

Rasmus

Ruiz

 

This is a ridiculously tough lineup to get through.

 

 

Fixed

[GD]

Beltre would be great, with even his personality fitting in on this team well. His defense doesn't seem to be close to what it used to though and Lawrie's (SSS) #s don't look very good for 2B. It would be a pretty big downgrade defensively. Really anything that moves Lawrie from 3B to 2B is a pretty big downgrade defensively. Would love Utley if his knees could handle it.

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qiwmv5A_MpA/U4NDNROsXxI/AAAAAAAAODs/qj9nHVfQmA4/s1600/xJFHFfl.gif

 

Lol if Beltre is anywhere near available I want him baaaaaaaaaaad

[jays4life19]

I wonder if Dioner Navarro has any trade value? Probably very little. I think we all agree that Eric Kratz is our best catcher. Trading Navarro would make our team better, free up 5 million in cap space for next year and also free up a spot on the roster so we don't have to have 3 catchers on the bench.

 

Who might want him? Baltimore? Texas?

[G-Snarls]

I wonder if Dioner Navarro has any trade value? Probably very little. I think we all agree that Eric Kratz is our best catcher. Trading Navarro would make our team better, free up 5 million in cap space for next year and also free up a spot on the roster so we don't have to have 3 catchers on the bench.

 

Who might want him? Baltimore? Texas?

 

Both could use him yes. Would trade for a BP arm.

[Frenchsoup]

Both could use him yes. Would trade for a BP arm.

 

Yeah i would pretty much give Navarro away for free

[fireballW]

I wonder if Dioner Navarro has any trade value? Probably very little. I think we all agree that Eric Kratz is our best catcher. Trading Navarro would make our team better, free up 5 million in cap space for next year and also free up a spot on the roster so we don't have to have 3 catchers on the bench.

 

Who might want him? Baltimore? Texas?

 

It's obvious to me most people here like Kratz over Navarro, but what's the argument for that?

[z3r0s]

It's obvious to me most people here like Kratz over Navarro, but what's the argument for that?

 

He's an elite framer and defensive catcher. Also has some pop in the old bat.

I don't have the framing/defense numbers, but that is the general sentiment.

[jays4life19]

It's obvious to me most people here like Kratz over Navarro, but what's the argument for that?

 

Kratz is by far a superior defender and is a really good framer. Navvaro is a below average defender and framer, who's hitting wRC+ 83. Navvaro also can't run.

 

Kratz has been worth 0.3 fWAR in 64 PA. Navvaro has been worth 0.1 fWAR in 217 PA.

[Frenchsoup]

He also has .216 babip and seems to call a better game then navarro plus he can catch the knuckleball. To me hes way better the navarro and its not even close.

[TwistedLogic]

I'm starting to think that the Jays are open to trade both Sanchez and Norris, and that scares me. Especially in a trade for Price or Shark.

[jays4life19]

I'm starting to think that the Jays are open to trade both Sanchez and Norris, and that scares me. Especially in a trade for Price or Shark.

 

I doubt it.

 

He said this just a few weeks ago...

 

“We are pretty much maxed out in terms of payroll, but more important, we cannot keep trading our young [minor league] pitchers,” Anthopoulos said. “We also have to be realistic about whom we can extend if we make a trade for him….We have been feeling out teams and doing background work. I think we’d probably look at something where we have a pitcher for the rest of this season. That makes sense." - AA

[Chappy]

I'm starting to think that the Jays are open to trade both Sanchez and Norris, and that scares me. Especially in a trade for Price or Shark.

 

Go ahead and trade Sanchez, but please not Norris.

[TwistedLogic]

I doubt it.

 

He said this just a few weeks ago...

 

“We are pretty much maxed out in terms of payroll, but more important, we cannot keep trading our young [minor league] pitchers,” Anthopoulos said. “We also have to be realistic about whom we can extend if we make a trade for him….We have been feeling out teams and doing background work. I think we’d probably look at something where we have a pitcher for the rest of this season. That makes sense." - AA

 

I know he said that but like you said, it was a few weeks ago. It's the middle of June now and the Jays are still 11 games over. Every week that passes while they remain in first, it makes the idea of the post-season that much more real. A lot of GMs tend to develop tunnel vision in those situations, which is why I'm hoping AA sticks to his guns.

 

Go ahead and trade Sanchez, but please not Norris.

 

That's exactly how I feel as well. Outside of the 2014 draft class, Norris is the only prospect left (not including Stroman) on my list of guys I don't want to see traded. Maybe Osuna... I've got the same gut feeling with him that I had for both Sanchez and Norris before they jumped the lists. But everyone else is fair game.

[kgm1]

That's the problem...we need a starting pitcher, but there's so much parity in the league that you can't buy anything right now unless you massively overpay. We have to make due for another month.

 

Exactly , AA needs to just have patience or it will cost a pretty penny ie (Norris +++). As I posted if we are up 5 games a month from now then I'm more willing to pay dearly than I am right now.

[jays4life19]

I know he said that but like you said, it was a few weeks ago. It's the middle of June now and the Jays are still 11 games over. Every week that passes while they remain in first, it makes the idea of the post-season that much more real. A lot of GMs tend to develop tunnel vision in those situations, which is why I'm hoping AA sticks to his guns.

 

 

 

That's exactly how I feel as well. Outside of the 2014 draft class, Norris is the only prospect left (not including Stroman) on my list of guys I don't want to see traded. Maybe Osuna... I've got the same gut feeling with him that I had for both Sanchez and Norris before they jumped the lists. But everyone else is fair game.

 

I guess it's possible. I think AA realizes he doesn't have a bottomless pitt when it comes to payroll and he's going to need pitching on the cheap in the upcoming years. I fully expect he would be willing to deal one of Sanchez or Norris - i just don't think he would gut the farm again and trade both.

[DuckDuckGose]

The Phillies blockbuster I'd truly love to see is Lee + Hamels + Utley. I imagine it would take a pillaging of the farm though. A Sanchez + Norris + Barreto ++ kind of thing

 

$63M prorated!

 

Not my money! Haha

[GD]

Rays and Cubs were scouting Norris the other day (according to Bob Elliott fwiw).

 

f***ing terrifying.

[kgm1]

Kratz is by far a superior defender and is a really good framer. Navvaro is a below average defender and framer, who's hitting wRC+ 83. Navvaro also can't run.

 

Kratz has been worth 0.3 fWAR in 64 PA. Navvaro has been worth 0.1 fWAR in 217 PA.

 

Glad to see people are coming around to what i have been posting all along . The guy is just too Lazy and out of shape to be anything more than a bench bat backup catcher

[kgm1]

Rays and Cubs were scouting Norris the other day (according to Bob Elliott fwiw).

 

f***ing terrifying.

 

Scares the s*** out of me but I see it happening. Elliot says the cubbies want 4 players for the shark. Ouch!

[fireballW]

Kratz is by far a superior defender and is a really good framer. Navvaro is a below average defender and framer, who's hitting wRC+ 83. Navvaro also can't run.

 

Kratz has been worth 0.3 fWAR in 64 PA. Navvaro has been worth 0.1 fWAR in 217 PA.

 

Hmmm I guess. I don't know. I don't mind him at all. Kratz has never done anything special to convince me of anything. I could see him being more valuable, but I could also see Navarro doing better over the last many months of the season.

[fireballW]

Glad to see people are coming around to what i have been posting all along . The guy is just too Lazy and out of shape to be anything more than a bench bat backup catcher

 

Trade them to TB and hope that they relocate to another division when their team needs to move out of TB.

[Frenchsoup]

Scares the s*** out of me but I see it happening. Elliot says the cubbies want 4 players for the shark. Ouch!

 

Yeah the 4 players doesn't really scare me, it's all about the quality not the quantity. it would be sweet if we could package drabek in there i think the cubbies like him.