What would this team have to win for people to quit calling for AA,s head

[kgm1]

Some have suggested they would rather the Jays lose so AA would be fired rather than win and he stays

[Dylan]

World Series or a solid competitive team for 3+ years

[Terminator]

Some have suggested they would rather the Jays lose so AA would be fired rather than win and he stays

 

Winning the AL East gets him off the hot seat. The team was junk when he took over and if he gets them there his tenure will be seen by many to have been a success.

 

I think he needs to do more than that but the Free Pizza fans will be satisfied for a couple of seasons.

Edited May 29, 2014 by Terminator

[BTS]

Sustained success. A single division title on a payroll approaching $140 million is not impressive.

[Atothe]

Sustained success. A single division title on a payroll approaching $140 million is not impressive.

 

except that payroll after 2015 will go down significantly if he so chooses

[TwistedLogic]

Some have suggested they would rather the Jays lose so AA would be fired rather than win and he stays

 

Nothing. People are never going to stop being self-entitled armchair GMs and people are never going to stop pretending like they know what happens in the front office. Yeah the majority of the bandwagon will sway with the flavor of the month, so if the Jays make the playoffs and a few popular posters start rooting for AA again, you'll probably see several others chime in, in agreement, but even if the Jays win back-to-back world series, if they start struggling the season after, it'll be back to calling for AA's head.

 

Just look at the examples in front of you. Jays fans would have done anything for a 20-30M bump in payroll two years ago, today, 50M+ later, Rogers is still a bunch of swindling cheap villains. Red Sox fans were elated just six months ago about their star manager and their world series team, just a few months later, almost all of them are completely pissed with Farrell because they're realizing how garbage of a manager he always was. A month ago, we had a "Fire Seitzer" thread, today we've got one singing his praises. Hell, people even turn on the players themselves on a weekly or even nightly basis.

 

So the short answer is, the team can't do anything to change the way people are, no sports organization is perfect, and until that fact remains true, there will always be slip-ups and mistakes and missed opportunities, even by the best teams, and at every turn, there will be a group of "fans" ready to fiercely take their anger out on their poor keyboards.

[Smedley Butler]

Some have suggested they would rather the Jays lose so AA would be fired rather than win and he stays

 

I am both shocked and appalled by this. Those f***ing bastards! We should ask Stephen Harper to ask Bibi Netanyahoo what he should do about scum like that.

[BTS]

except that payroll after 2015 will go down significantly if he so chooses

 

I'm not sure what your point is.

[theblujay]

I'll take meaningful games in July to quit calling for him to be fired.

[Terminator]

Sustained success. A single division title on a payroll approaching $140 million is not impressive.

 

So if the Jays win the AL East this season you'll still call for him to be fired before the 2015 season?

[kgm1]

Sustained success. A single division title on a payroll approaching $140 million is not impressive.

 

 

AA was on the route to sustained success when ownership intervened and wanted instant success. If he hasn't the money to spend in the draft this year who will you blame?

[The_DH]

Two playoff years or one WS win.

[reedjohnsonfan]

They have to be competitive for the next couple of years and make the playoffs at least once. If the stars align and they win a world series but suck every other year he gets an automatic pass IMO.

[BTS]

So if the Jays win the AL East this season you'll still call for him to be fired before the 2015 season?

 

I don't see how his true-talent 85 win team winning 88-89 games this year should change people's opinion of him as a GM. Ruben Amaro has three division titles.

[Terminator]

I don't see how his true-talent 85 win team winning 88-89 games this year should change people's opinion of him as a GM. Ruben Amaro has three division titles.

 

Amaro is a good point although I will point out that he inherited a WS winning team and AA inherited a loser with a bad farm system. Completely different.