GDT(3/3): Tampa Bay Rays @ Toronto Blue Jays - Hendricks vs. Archer - 7:07 PM ET

[Solaxys]

lol... something about hitting...

[jays4life19]

3rd worst xFIP in MLB for the Bluejays Pitchers. We can't keep running out Liam and JA......upgrades please AA

[closetjaysfan]

Somehow that was only the 3rd hit for the Rays

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Dude, you're allowed to acknowledge other team's good players. Molina is very valuable, even if he can't hit.

 

No amount of pitch framing is going to make up for a .136 wOBA

[Orgfiller]

We have Kratz... I dont want Molina back

 

I agree but Kratz is never behind the plate

[BarkatToronto]

lol @ Molina and clog used in the same sentence

[Stangstag]

Dude, you're allowed to acknowledge other team's good players. Molina is very valuable, even if he can't hit.

 

Except he isnt really a good player. He is great at framing... thats it. I would take Hannigan over Molina any day.

[BarkatToronto]

LoL i thought that was gone for sure

[Orgfiller]

No amount of pitch framing is going to make up for a .136 wOBA

 

JFaS would probably disagree with that.

[Deadpool]

No amount of pitch framing is going to make up for a .136 wOBA

 

We had Molina. I remember very clearly not wanting us to have Molina anymore. I wouldn't mind if we picked up a 3rd Molina brother, since the last one is the best one...

[Orgfiller]

Except he isnt really a good player. He is great at framing... thats it. I would take Hannigan over Molina any day.

 

I'm not saying he's the best in the business, but his framing probably makes him at least worth 2-3 WAR I would think.

[Orgfiller]

We had Molina. I remember very clearly not wanting us to have Molina anymore. I wouldn't mind if we picked up a 3rd Molina brother, since the last one is the best one...

 

Maybe we can have him at a family discount?

 

Bad joke I know.

[Angrioter]

The gap between Hendricks and Jenkins is minimal.

[BigCecil]

Hendricks through 5....phew

[BarkatToronto]

We had Molina. I remember very clearly not wanting us to have Molina anymore. I wouldn't mind if we picked up a 3rd Molina brother, since the last one is the best one...

 

I also remember having a great pitching staff of Cecil, Romero, Marcum, and Morrow when we had Molina

 

Just saying. We had four solid starters when we had Molina

[closetjaysfan]

We need some runs. Badly.

[BarkatToronto]

Hendricks through 5....phew

 

Its amazing how he has survived, and prob earned himself another start

[GD]

JFaS would probably disagree with that.

 

Nah, not even his +3 win framing makes up for that. If my quick mental math is correct.

[guylaroche5]

we have been so f***ing lucky all game, gotta capitalize

[Orgfiller]

Hendriks getting his s*** together. 5 K's and no walks through 5 is a promising sign. Ugly GB rate though.

[Deadpool]

I'm not saying he's the best in the business, but his framing probably makes him at least worth 2-3 WAR I would think.

 

Pitch framing is not considered for the actual stat WAR, but I get your drift...

 

I doubt it's worth that much. It's maybe 2-3 WAN (WinsAboveNavarro, so I don't have to explain the joke later...) but that's because Navarro is very far below replacement level as a framer...

[Solaxys]

Hendricks through 5....phew

 

Who would've thought; this guy must have brought an Australian Jackrabbit's foot with him.

[guylaroche5]

Its amazing how he has survived, and prob earned himself another start

 

i don't think gibby is retarded enough to realize 20+ deep fly balls is a promising sign from a pitcher, regardless of ERA

[JohnnyLonghorn]

What a steal Nelson Cruz has been for the O's.

[Trouba95]

Can we squeeze one more inning out of Hendricks?

[BigCecil]

Its amazing how he has survived, and prob earned himself another start

 

Its SCARY but he is battling...props for that. not the first pitcher to have his D bail him out.

[Orgfiller]

Nah, not even his +3 win framing makes up for that. If my quick mental math is correct.

 

You mean even with the framing added in he still wouldn't amount to 1-2 WAR? Damn.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Jose Molina -.8 WAR in baseball

 

Tied for 3rd least valuable player in the game.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

JFaS would probably disagree with that.

 

Why would I care if JFaS disagreed with that?

[Orgfiller]

Pitch framing is not considered for the actual stat WAR, but I get your drift...

 

I doubt it's worth that much. It's maybe 2-3 WAN (WinsAboveNavarro, so I don't have to explain the joke later...) but that's because Navarro is very far below replacement level as a framer...

 

I might be overstating his abilities. It'd be nice to have a good framing catcher who plays solid D and can also hit...