FanGraphs: FG on Fox: Positive Regression in Toronto

[SpeedyGose]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/staying-the-course-paying-off-for-blue-jays-so-far-052814

 

Pitching numbers are a bit worrisome as that HR/9 in our launching pad is not sustainable (especially with the pitchers we have).

 

However, the rest of the article is a good read (nothing we don't already know though). enjoy!

[G-Snarls]

Yeah we need another starter from within it via trade

 

We can't expect Buerhle Happ and Hendriks to keep this up

[SpeedyGose]

Basically need the offense to keep up their pace. Which honestly, outside of Edwin's month isn't really out of the question. Everyone else - excluding Francisco, who if played strictly platoon is still probably a .350-.360 wOBA bat - is playing within their realm of possibilities.

 

So much fun to watch right now, just enjoying the ride

[Thaddeus Malice]

Yeah we need another starter from within it via trade

 

We can't expect Buerhle Happ and Hendriks to keep this up

 

Well Buehrle could still be very good with a 3.6 or so ERA the rest of the way, not including his results to this point. He has a pretty long track record of outperforming his xFIP significantly. His career ERA is 3.81, and an xFIP of 4.20. That's over a sample of 3000 innings at this point so I would say it's pretty established that he outperforms his peripherals.

[shortstop]

i'd prefer upgrading starting rotation over 2B...

 

I say this right now b/c the Lawrie/Francisco/Tolleson gig has been going well

[Anemic0ffense]

i'd prefer upgrading starting rotation over 2B...

 

I say this right now b/c the Lawrie/Francisco/Tolleson gig has been going well

 

I agree. I can live with one of Happ or Hendriks as the #5, but not both of them as our 4 & 5.

[G-Snarls]

I agree. I can live with one of Happ or Hendriks as the #5, but not both of them as our 4 & 5.

 

Agree with all the above from you and shortstop

 

2B is manageable. I want AA looking for a real long term solution but if that's July or December that's fine

 

Need another starter this year. If Stroman or Nolin can contribute by July great, if not he should be trading for someone.

[Bunchedundies]

I agree. I can live with one of Happ or Hendriks as the #5, but not both of them as our 4 & 5.

 

Yeah, I think everyone in baseball knows the Jays need another starter to be considered serious contenders. I am also worried about hutchison making it through the year healthy.

 

I hope they don't wait too late, every win counts and don't want the Yanks, O's make a move before us.

[Stangstag]

We just need to avoid any long DL stints. If we lose someone like Bautista or Lawrie or Melky for more than a month, we will be f***ed.

[Anemic0ffense]

O's already heavily interested in Shark. Looks like they don't care about emptying the farm for him.

[Sammy225]

IMO they don't need to go out and get a guy like Shark or Price. Go and get a guy who can give you solid innings (MB type). With the offence that this team has if you can get a guy that can give you 7 innings of 3 run baseball that is more than enough.

[Sammy225]

O's already heavily interested in Shark. Looks like they don't care about emptying the farm for him.

 

If they are willing to give up bother Gausman and Bundy for him go right ahead. They need more than 1 starter to help their rotation.

[Anemic0ffense]

I really see the Phillies matching up with us well at the trade deadline. I think we land Lee or Hamels.

[Terminator]

i'd prefer upgrading starting rotation over 2B...

 

I say this right now b/c the Lawrie/Francisco/Tolleson gig has been going well

 

Yeah he doesn't even mention the platoon.

[G-Snarls]

I really see the Phillies matching up with us well at the trade deadline. I think we land Lee or Hamels.

 

Would make so much sense for us...

[BlueJaysGirl]

Well Buehrle could still be very good with a 3.6 or so ERA the rest of the way, not including his results to this point. He has a pretty long track record of outperforming his xFIP significantly. His career ERA is 3.81, and an xFIP of 4.20. That's over a sample of 3000 innings at this point so I would say it's pretty established that he outperforms his peripherals.

 

Who could have predicted that his contract might actually turn out to be an okay contract.

[Chappy]

i'd prefer upgrading starting rotation over 2B...

 

I say this right now b/c the Lawrie/Francisco/Tolleson gig has been going well

 

I don't 2B is a huge concern as it was earlier in the year. Right now SP is the biggest weakness and we are basically 1 horse away.

[Chappy]

Who could have predicted that his contract might actually turn out to be an okay contract.

 

A few of us on the board didn't consider it a bad deal considering his durability, innings and consistency compared to what other SP are getting. Most thought it was an albatross and I'm sure a few still do.

[BlueJaysGirl]

Would make so much sense for us...

 

Who would they want, though? GM_AA has already gone on record to say he's mostly done pillaging the farm (paraphrasing). If the Phillies swallow some of Lee's salary for example, they will want two prospects, won't they? I'd rather bring shark in for two better prospects. He's better, younger, and way cheaper.

[BlueJaysGirl]

A few of us on the board didn't consider it a bad deal considering his durability, innings and consistency compared to what other SP are getting. Most thought it was an albatross and I'm sure a few still do.

 

It wasn't as bad as some, that's for sure, but at the time I thought it was $5M/year too much. But I didn't see SP salaries sky rocketing like they have. For example, the Twins and all the middling SP they signed for millions. Crazy.

[pickoff22]

I really see the Phillies matching up with us well at the trade deadline. I think we land Lee or Hamels.

 

Two things way against us.....first Rogers has shown us already they don't want to open up the checkbook and both those pitchers carry hefty salaries for more than this season.

 

And even moreso, Amaro continues to show me that he ought to be considered amongst the worst GMs in baseball at this stage. So damn stubborn and has steadily refused to trade their "stars" with the thought they can contend.

[BlueJaysGirl]

I don't 2B is a huge concern as it was earlier in the year. Right now SP is the biggest weakness and we are basically 1 horse away.

 

I'm actually really okay with the Lawrie/Tolleson platoon at the moment. The only issue I think this hot team has is that #5 spot. Unless we truly have found lightning in a bottle with Liam (5% chance), he will get shelled soon and b-bye. The craptastic thing is Stroman didn't look good his last AAA start. That sucked. Maybe as he stretches out he'll be that viable option in June.

[BlueJaysGirl]

Two things away against us.....first Rogers has shown us already they don't want to open up the checkbook and both those pitchers carry hefty salaries for more than this season.

 

And even moreso, Amaro continues to show me that he ought to be considered amongst the worst GMs in baseball at this stage. So damn stubborn and has steadily refused to trade their "stars" with the thought they can contend.

 

Amaro has already said he won't rebuild (read, sell off), but rather he'd like to re-load. So maybe he keeps that pitching anyway.

[G-Snarls]

Two things away against us.....first Rogers has shown us already they don't want to open up the checkbook and both those pitchers carry hefty salaries for more than this season.

 

And even moreso, Amaro continues to show me that he ought to be considered amongst the worst GMs in baseball at this stage. So damn stubborn and has steadily refused to trade their "stars" with the thought they can contend.

 

He may finally be fired and have this decision taken away from him

 

Still last in the NL East. Not out of it, and the division is tight, but what would make anyone think they could make a playoff run??

[BarkatToronto]

Unfortunately we may not have what it needs to get shark, the Cubs are heavily interested in the Orioles Prospects

 

There are some notes on here about how Jays should try and get another MB type. Problem with that is that you still have to give up top prospects. Its going to be a heavy sellers market

 

The right course of action is to first move Rasmus for a prospect and then use that prospect combined with one of our own to get what we want.

 

I am not averse to selling on Sanchez and Stroman. However I dont think they are as sexy as the Orioles prospects to the cubs

[IBTrini]

Yeah, I think everyone in baseball knows the Jays need another starter to be considered serious contenders. I am also worried about hutchison making it through the year healthy.

 

I hope they don't wait too late, every win counts and don't want the Yanks, O's make a move before us.

This is one factor which will drive up the cost of that particular arm. Another factor is the other teams who also have issues with their SPs could create a bidding war on the good arms out there. The question remains, at which point do you start considering the asking price is too steep? It's not an easy decision but the bottom line is this glaring need will not disappear.

[Bunchedundies]

Two things way against us.....first Rogers has shown us already they don't want to open up the checkbook and both those pitchers carry hefty salaries for more than this season.

 

And even moreso, Amaro continues to show me that he ought to be considered amongst the worst GMs in baseball at this stage. So damn stubborn and has steadily refused to trade their "stars" with the thought they can contend.

 

Rogers sucks then, if they won;t take on extra salary, when it really could mean sell-outs, playoffs and more revenue.

[pickoff22]

Rogers sucks then, if they won;t take on extra salary, when it really could mean sell-outs, playoffs and more revenue.

 

I agree, and if this is a pre trade deadline move based on our current standings at the time, then I could see the pursestrings being loosened as I imagine TV ratings and attendance will reflect the potential for profits if we make the playoffs. It's Amaro's stubbornness that I'm more worried about.

[flafson]

Attendance is one thing but anyone got any idea how ratings have been lately? If there is a clear spike in ratings that could be enough to give us more money.

[Sammy225]

Attendance is one thing but anyone got any idea how ratings have been lately? If there is a clear spike in ratings that could be enough to give us more money.

 

Ratings are strong a tweet by Sportsnet indicated that Mondays game attracted about 836K viewers which is huge.