McGowan demoted to the bullpen -Redmond/Stroman as replacements

[HERPDERP]

John Lott ‏@LottOnBaseball ·2m

McGowan to bullpen.

 

John Lott ‏@LottOnBaseball ·15s

Gibbons: Redmond or Stroman likely to replace McGowan in rotation. Says no decision made yet.

[magits]

John Lott ‏@LottOnBaseball ·2m

McGowan to bullpen.

 

Hallefrickinluja

 

this rotation was never going to work with both happ and mcg in the rotation. AL east is ripe for the taking. lets get shark.

[flafson]

Who's going to replace him? Stroman?

[NorthOf49]

Who's going to replace him? Stroman?

Let's pray.

[HERPDERP]

Whoever replaces him will need to have his arm built up to strength.

 

The fact that Stroman is not a 100% lock in the spot now just shows the lack of confidence this club has in him.

[Daniel Labude]

Whoever replaces him will need to have his arm built up to strength.

 

The fact that Stroman is not a 100% lock in the spot now just shows the lack of confidence this club has in him.

 

Or the FO is just plain stupid.

[Orgfiller]

While Redmond>Happ there's no reason for Redmond to have the slightest consideration over Stroman.

[Angrioter]

McGowan's fantasy value rise.

McGowan = Wade Davis

[Angrioter]

Whoever replaces him will need to have his arm built up to strength.

 

The fact that Stroman is not a 100% lock in the spot now just shows the lack of confidence this club has in him.

 

f*** man, you sound smart at times!!

FO did the same to Nolin and thank God he regained sanity.

[jaysblue]

McGowan can be dominant out of the pen. Look at what he did last season. The Jays were foolish for never using him out of the BP to start the season especially with Janssen injured.

 

I'm sick of seeing Stroman used in a mop-up role. Give him a rotation spot - let him have his ups/downs out of the rotation. Only way he'll learn.

[bzapple]

Whichever one it is, the other will probably have to replace Happ so whatever.

[jaysblue]

Dickey

MB

Hutchison

Stroman

Redmond/Nolin

 

That's better rather than both McGowan and Happ in the rotation.

[Laika]

McGowan deserved way, way more rope.

 

The ups and downs of McGowan and Stroman would both even out to be greater than or equal to the steady shittiness of JA Happ. Rotation should be Dickey, Hutch, Buehrle, McGowan, Stroman.

[Sammy225]

So this morning on BC, Blair asked Gibbers if there were going to be any changes to the rotation for the upcoming road trip. Gibbers responded saying that they were going to stick with the same 5 guys they've been using for the next while at least.

 

Then later in the interview he hinted that Happ needed to pitch well tonight or he'd be replaced. Then 3 hours later he removes McGowan from the rotation.

 

Awesome.

 

Likely hadn't told Dusty yet so don't let him hear about it over the radio. Common courtesy is my guess.

[Sammy225]

McGowan deserved way, way more rope.

 

The ups and downs of McGowan and Stroman would both even out to be greater than or equal to the steady shittiness of JA Happ. Rotation should be Dickey, Hutch, Buehrle, McGowan, Stroman.

 

It sounds like after hearing from McGowan that it was a recovery issue. He said he was not recovering well between starts and it was a mutual decision. Take it for what it is worth though.

 

P.S Change your Avatar it freaks me out.

[closetjaysfan]

How the f*** does McGowan get the boot before Happ lol. Stroman should be in AAA to build up innings as a starter. He hasn't pitched well out of the pen.

 

Because Happ is such a cry baby about having a starter role that he would probably tank in the bullpen...

 

In all seriousness, I think it is because McGowen has acknowledged that he doesn't have the gas to be a starter.

[The_DH]

If McGowan admitted he didn't have the gas to start then good on him.

[KingKat]

How the f*** does McGowan get the boot before Happ lol. Stroman should be in AAA to build up innings as a starter. He hasn't pitched well out of the pen.

 

Moving McGowan to the pen kills two birds with one stone. The bullpen might simply be improved by not having to cover for both him and Happ and he should be an effective reliever in his own right. What they are doing with Stroman doesn't make much sense. If he's not replacing McGowan then I agree he should be in the minors and getting ready to come back as a starter. What he is doing now is a waste of his service time and the more it goes on the less he'll be able to start effectively if and when he's called upon.

[TDotttt2005]

There has to be a trade soon. They cant keep going on like this. All of the moves that people are complaining about are because the starters cant go more than 4-5 innings a start. Even when they pitch well, they have high pitch counts and have to be taken out. Even if Stroman can replace Dustin, then we're left praying that Redmond of all people can be serviceable enough to replace Happ once he falters, which he will.

 

All the "depth" AA talked about...not wanting to shell out money for "fringe" guys, because of the depth we had at the AAA level, where is that now? Its hope upon hope at this point.

[kgm1]

So this morning on BC, Blair asked Gibbers if there were going to be any changes to the rotation for the upcoming road trip. Gibbers responded saying that they were going to stick with the same 5 guys they've been using for the next while at least.

 

Then later in the interview he hinted that Happ needed to pitch well tonight or he'd be replaced. Then 3 hours later he removes McGowan from the rotation.

 

Awesome.

 

Blame AA . Gibbons has wanted McGowan in the bull pen all year . AA is calling all the roster moves, he is getting as bad as JPR.

[kgm1]

McGowan deserved way, way more rope.

 

The ups and downs of McGowan and Stroman would both even out to be greater than or equal to the steady shittiness of JA Happ. Rotation should be Dickey, Hutch, Buehrle, McGowan, Stroman.

 

McGowan is needed in the pen . Yes he is way better than Happ IMO but the pen is in bad shape and Mcgowan can really help out there.

[Laika]

It sounds like after hearing from McGowan that it was a recovery issue. He said he was not recovering well between starts and it was a mutual decision. Take it for what it is worth though.

 

P.S Change your Avatar it freaks me out.

 

Ah, well that makes more sense then.

 

And no. Never.

[Anemic0ffense]

Happ must have naked pics of AA... Only explanation for him still being on the 25 man roster, nevermind the rotation. Being on the 25 man roster alone is a head scratcher.

[G-Snarls]

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ervin+Santana+Atlanta+Braves+v+Philadelphia+iyVF-TZYQ-Ql.jpg

 

2.30 fip

1.99 era

43 k

9 bb

[G-Snarls]

f*** you Ervin Santana

 

Goddammit

[KingKat]

Ah, well that makes more sense then.

 

And no. Never.

 

Everything you post comes off at least 20% more douchy since you picked that avatar. I suspect that you're fine with this.

[jayswin11]

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Ervin+Santana+Atlanta+Braves+v+Philadelphia+iyVF-TZYQ-Ql.jpg

 

2.30 fip

1.99 era

43 k

9 bb

 

He would not be putting up those same numbers in Toronto. He's be better than what we have but not as good as he's been in Atlanta.

[saskjayfan]

f*** you Ervin Santana

 

Goddammit

 

It just makes me sick...he agreed to come to the jays..if it wasn't for the injury in Atlanta he'd be playing for the jays

[saskjayfan]

Everyone was telling me there was uber-depth in the organization, in terms of SP. Where is it, again, since we're all complaining about how bad the options are?

 

they have a lot of number 5s to go to....last year they didn't even have that so the depth is a lot better...problem is they need another number 2 in the rotation.

[Jimcanuck]

pretty clear McG was losing velocity and bite..... his arm can't handle SP unfortunately. too bad because he has the talent.

 

Stroman has looked quite hittable