Would you pick up Brandon Morrow's 2015 option?

[kgm1]

we wouldn't get his 220+ innings for less money elsewhere. I'd trade Reyes and Rasmus, but not Buehrle

 

If we are out of contention then as many of us have posted it will be time to trade them all depending on value received. Won't happen unless AA gets fired but it is the obvious move.

[kgm1]

If we're out of contention at the end of June that means we should completely clean house between the mid season trade deadline and the off season. I wouldn't even keep Buerhle. Just let the young guys have at it next year.

 

Right now probably the worst case senario has us 5 to 7 games out end of June and our lame duck GM goes for it gutting what is left of the farm.

[G-Snarls]

Right now probably the worst case senario has us 5 to 7 games out end of June and our lame duck GM goes for it gutting what is left of the farm.

 

Nightmare scenario.

[G-Snarls]

If you think we will sign Lester your dreaming. Were stuck with Dickey until he starts pitching well. But Buehrle needs to be moved asap. This team is not contending any time soon.

 

LOL I know. Zero chance we get him. All we can hope for is that he leaves the division.

[Captain Adama]

This is why I don't go on this board much lately. this option is a no-brainer.

Despite the general volatility of pitchers, find me a starter like Morrow who isn't injury prone, great. Now, convince said pitcher to sign for $10M, good luck.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

We could sell him to Japan. But hes not a roster player. I believe he doesn't have enough service time to refuse assignments. But hes already in Buffalo so its irrelevent.

 

That is what I am trying to figure out and why I asked the question. If he has enough service time what happens if he refuses assignment?

[G-Snarls]

This is why I don't go on this board much lately. this option is a no-brainer.

Despite the general volatility of pitchers, find me a starter like Morrow who isn't injury prone, great. Now, convince said pitcher to sign for $10M, good luck.

 

He's Josh Johnson all over again, but can be kept for 10M instead of 14.3M.

[Governator]

The next pitch Morrow throws his arm is just going to fall off and fly in to the front row seats like a slipped Encarnacion bat.

[z3r0s]

This is why I don't go on this board much lately. this option is a no-brainer.

Despite the general volatility of pitchers, find me a starter like Morrow who isn't injury prone, great. Now, convince said pitcher to sign for $10M, good luck.

 

Just gotta stick to the right threads and ignore the rest man.

[Angrioter]

O's, Boston and Yanks suck; Rays injury bugs....The windows is open.

[Bluejays0988]

O's Boston and Yanks suck; Rays injury bugs....The windows is open.

 

Even with all you mentioned above, the Jays need so much to go right for them to qualify for the playoffs. With this current roster I just don't see it happening

[Angrioter]

Even with all you mentioned above, the Jays need so much to go right for them to qualify for the playoffs. With this current roster I just don't see it happening

 

2.5 behind after awful month

[shortstop]

2.5 behind after awful month

 

If correct, to date, the interdivision games for each team stacks up as follows:

 

Jays = 13

Red Sox = 19

O's = 19

Yanks = 20

Rays = 15

[reedjohnsonfan]

Morrow 2013-2014 stats:

 

GS: 16

ERA: 5.73

FIP around 5

WHIP above 1.5

WAR: 0.2

 

And he's diabetic and turning 30 in July.

 

Ervin Santana got 14.1 million- much better deal. There will probably be a better 1 year option than spending 10 million on Morrow, especially with the potential lack of payroll flexibility.

[Governator]

Morrow 2013-2014 stats:

 

GS: 16

ERA: 5.73

FIP around 5

WHIP above 1.5

WAR: 0.2

 

And he's diabetic and turning 30 in July.

 

Ervin Santana got 14.1 million- much better deal. There will probably be a better 1 year option than spending 10 million on Morrow, especially with the potential lack of payroll flexibility.

 

It's easy to say that now, but look at Jimenez who basically got the same deal in the AL East and is getting pounded. You roll the dice. If the Jays don't pick up Morrow's option he'll be available in the form of a discount at a similar rate to Johnson. $8M + Bonus for getting 75% of his expected starts which could translate in to $10M and the Jays kick themselves that they could have had him for that price.

[JJippidy]

Picking up the option is fine, it just needs to be done with the realization that you can't count on him for being more than the 5th best option on a team looking to contend.

[Jimcanuck]

Even if Morrow can get reasonably healthy again, he can't seem to pitch more than 5 innings.

 

In other words, an injury prone, past his prime starter that taxes the bullpen when healthy.

 

Worth a $9M gamble? Jays have several months to decided, but at this point.... NO

[Captain Adama]

There are no starters like Morrow, because they're all relievers. Or retired. Or on the DL, in perpetuity.

 

And on top of that, you didn't even make a point relevant to Morrow. I'm guessing you're trying to say he's thuper awesome (untrue) when healthy (he isn't), and that these thuper awesome healthy pitchers get megabucks. But you just ended there. What do guys who never pitch make ... ya know, for not pitching? Morrow isn't one of those thuper awesome yeah yeah pitchers ... he's an injury-prone Mr. Glass who can't even figure out what kind of pitcher he is the rare occasions he's healthy.

 

Try Scott Kazmir for one, or Brandon Beachy. Secondly, I love how you create this lovely strawman where I think Morrow's elite when he's not which is utter ******** (just like most of your posts) It's not so much Morrow himself but the market for pitching, Morrow's option is for one year, he's injuried, oh f***ing well. With a similar you get off Free Agency is gonna get a multi-year deal which can hurt a lot more than Morrow's one year option would. But it's not like Alex will go the free agent route anyway.

[shortstop]

it's hard to give up an 'asset' whether he has a good year next year or another injury ravaged season...

 

the issue, imo, is Morrow & the Jays need to go their separate ways...sucks when Jays would get little in return in a trade at this point, but sometimes everyone needs a fresh start.

 

next season rotation of Dickey, Buehrle, Hutch, Stroman & a pitcher #5 isn't that bad...especially if they sign a FA innings eating starter...

 

AA needs to reward guys who have performed & while we all believe in patience/2nd chances, they should have run out of patience/chances with Morrow.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

Try Scott Kazmir for one, or Brandon Beachy. Secondly, I love how you create this lovely strawman where I think Morrow's elite when he's not which is utter ******** (just like most of your posts) It's not so much Morrow himself but the market for pitching, Morrow's option is for one year, he's injuried, oh f***ing well. With a similar you get off Free Agency is gonna get a multi-year deal which can hurt a lot more than Morrow's one year option would. But it's not like Alex will go the free agent route anyway.

 

There is no way they'll renew Morrow unless something incredible happens later this year. We actually have some pitchers coming through our system now, and I suspect our focus in the off season will shift to OF and 2B. Look, I loved Morrow in the past, he was truly elite before he got hurt in 2012. But he's a risky guy now and this team needs guys who can either make a guaranteed splash in 2015 or be a longer term asset from 2016-2018 at a reasonable cost. I don't think he's either at that pay rate.

 

I'd rather go with Sanchez ( for example ) in 2015 and plow the money into the offence. This option also keeps open the chance to do an easy retool moving forward, the Jays are in great shape to do whatever they want from mid-2015 forward. $10 million contracts to often injured veteran pitchers decreases your flexibility. If all the young pitchers strike out, but our team finishes well this year, then try to spend the money on an impact starter. I'm guessing though that one or more of these young guys will be a reliable starter by next season.