Official: Goins optioned to AAA, Getz called up, Storey released

[GD]

IDK UZR well but he's already past 8 in these 50 games. 33/150 so I think it would be higher than 7.5

 

Nobody stays that high. The highest among qualified 2B was Utley at 19.2 one year. A 7.5 UZR is really, really good. High above average. 33/150 is historical and I think we can agree that even if Goins' defense is great he's not an all-timer.

[gruber92]

This season his defensive prowess continued. Among second basemen who played 100 innings, he ranked fifth in the majors with a 2.3 defensive rating, according to Fangraphs.com.

[GD]

This season his defensive prowess continued. Among second basemen who played 100 innings, he ranked fifth in the majors with a 2.3 defensive rating, according to Fangraphs.com.

 

Amazing that you don't understand what I'm talking about.

[theblujay]

Nobody stays that high. The highest among qualified 2B was Utley at 19.2 one year. A 7.5 UZR is really, really good. High above average. 33/150 is historical and I think we can agree that even if Goins' defense is great he's not an all-timer.

 

I really wanted to see what he would get over a full year so we would know.

[theblujay]

Nobody stays that high. The highest among qualified 2B was Utley at 19.2 one year. A 7.5 UZR is really, really good. High above average. 33/150 is historical and I think we can agree that even if Goins' defense is great he's not an all-timer.

 

I don't know how fast the scale moves with UZR, but I'm just guessing 7.5 is a low estimate

[GD]

I really wanted to see what he would get over a full year so we would know.

 

I don't think even a full year is enough for it to stabilize. And even then, it'll always fluctuate based on whether he gets balls hit at him. Defense is weird.

[kgm1]

They think Getz is better than Goins right now, and neither is a long-term option so they're going with the better player.

 

They are all replacement level or slightly above . What Kawasaki brings is a little more patience at the plate and better baserunning abilities .

[GD]

I don't know how fast the scale moves with UZR, but I'm just guessing 7.5 is a low estimate

 

It would be the 30th best mark ever career wise, above Elvis Andrus, Alexei Ramirez, Troy Tulowitzki, Jimmy Rollins, but below Brandon Phillips, Mike Moustakas, Aaron Rowand, Geoff Jenkins, etc. It's very good company.

[gruber92]

Amazing that you don't understand what I'm talking about.

 

Lol.. Go out and get laid already......................................oh wait

[GeorgiaPeach]

Question is can Mastro be far behind? Bye bye Sierra.

 

Also does Morrow have options?

 

And would McGowan clear waivers?

 

Why?

 

McGowan to the pen, like I said before ST when everyone was salivating at him starting or just wanting him to start until his arm falls off.

 

McGowan, as a set up guy, Redmond to the back end of the rotation until Stroman comes up.

 

It's mind numbing how fundamentally poor Sierra is at bat, in the field and on the bases. DFA Sierra and bring up Mastro. Atleast we'd have a guy that could back up at all 3 OF positions.

[GD]

Lol.. Go out and get laid already......................................oh wait

 

ur dumn

[theblujay]

It would be the 30th best mark ever career wise, above Elvis Andrus, Alexei Ramirez, Troy Tulowitzki, Jimmy Rollins, but below Brandon Phillips, Mike Moustakas, Aaron Rowand, Geoff Jenkins, etc. It's very good company.

 

What would that translate to in defensive runs? And it must not be a linear scale

[theblujay]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWQ3YOMtJaM/UEsnJKgjdkI/AAAAAAAACo0/miO-N7XEaFA/s320/black-kid-oh-snap.gif

 

Go back to imgur with your gifs

[JSFIP]

ur dumn

 

Moron.

[Anemic0ffense]

I hope Ryan can Getz his bat Goins in AAA

[GD]

What would that translate to in defensive runs? And it must not be a linear scale

 

UZR is defensive runs, pretty much. It's in a run scale.

 

Moron.

 

Hey bestie! Ready to hate on King? I sure am!!1!!1!

[GD]

literally the most overused GIF in history 0/10 would not bang

[theblujay]

UZR is defensive runs, pretty much. It's in a run scale.

 

 

Alright it seems like the leaders really separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Like Machado is way ahead with like 30 last year and then from 10-30 everyone is within a few runs of each other. I guess that's the variation of it that skews it so much.

 

So basically defense doesn't effect that much compared to offense except for the few fielders who get the positive effect of the variation

[theblujay]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/done.gif

 

Stop

[GD]

Alright it seems like the leaders really separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Like Machado is way ahead with like 30 last year and then from 10-30 everyone is within a few runs of each other. I guess that's the variation of it that skews it so much.

 

So basically defense doesn't effect that much compared to offense except for the few fielders who get the positive effect of the variation

 

Basically, guys are capable of huge, isolated seasons, but it evens out over the course of a career. So Goins has had a huge 58 game sample, and that's not luck, he's a great defender. It's just that he's probably not an all time great which means he'll regress to join the rest of the above average and very good pack.

[GD]

Saki can't come up yet. That's why it's Getz.

 

Nice catch. Smart thinking.

 

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Lol the Goins thread got locked.

[gruber92]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWQ3YOMtJaM/UEsnJKgjdkI/AAAAAAAACo0/miO-N7XEaFA/s320/black-kid-oh-snap.gif

 

You too squirrel.

 

STFU with the lame ass gifs already.

[theblujay]

Basically, guys are capable of huge, isolated seasons, but it evens out over the course of a career. So Goins has had a huge 58 game sample, and that's not luck, he's a great defender. It's just that he's probably not an all time great which means he'll regress to join the rest of the above average and very good pack.

 

So if there isn't a real luck factor on defense it must be a flaw of the stat or is it number of balls hit at you and getting more opportunities on harder plays

[theblujay]

Someone enshrine the Goins thread somewhere before it disappears

[theblujay]

Maybe now that its gone I can change my ways...

[GD]

So if there isn't a real luck factor on defense it must be a flaw of the stat or is it number of balls hit at you and getting more opportunities on harder plays

 

Personal theory of mine is that it's just a sample size variation. It's not the stat that's flawed but the evaluation of defense itself. Guys may not get hit balls to them in one season, and end up with a +2.5, but then next season they do and get +5.5, despite the ability being pretty similar, but this is just speculation with no evidence.

[G-Snarls]

Saki can't come up yet. That's why it's Getz.

 

15 days is it??

[kgm1]

Sign Drew?

 

*fingers crossed*

 

Is it snowing in hell. Has Happ and Rogers been traded. No! so the odds of signing Drew are Lotto Max type. If anyone thinks the Beest has made up with Boras they are dreaming.

[theblujay]

Personal theory of mine is that it's just a sample size variation. It's not the stat that's flawed but the evaluation of defense itself. Guys may not get hit balls to them in one season, and end up with a +2.5, but then next season they do and get +5.5, despite the ability being pretty similar, but this is just speculation with no evidence.

 

So we need either a BABIP type thing for UZR or an improved stat

[G-Snarls]

Is it snowing in hell. Has Happ and Rogers been traded. No! so the odds of signing Drew are Lotto Max type. If anyone thinks the Beest has made up with Boras they are dreaming.

 

Maybe Boras should stick his finger up Beeston's ass during oral?

 

(Moogy's idea...)