Official: Goins optioned to AAA, Getz called up, Storey released

[GD]

Lol no. Same with the bat, Goins is better at D

 

Getz career: 67 wRC+

Goins career: 45 wRC+

 

22% difference "same with the bat" lol

[theblujay]

They think Getz is better than Goins right now, and neither is a long-term option so they're going with the better player.

 

The difference is almost insignificant and Goins has the potential to be something more so I don't get it. This move isn't going to effect our result at the end of the year lol.

[GD]

The difference is almost insignificant and Goins has the potential to be something more

 

No, it isn't, and no, he doesn't.

[theblujay]

Getz career: 67 wRC+

Goins career: 45 wRC+

 

22% difference "same with the bat" lol

 

Lol don't even try Goins is not a 45 wRC+ hitter

[GD]

Lol don't even try Goins is not a 45 wRC+ hitter

 

Oh, right, except he is and that's his career mark and he's really s***** so yeah.

[theblujay]

No, it isn't, and no, he doesn't.

 

The difference is less than half a win.

 

and yes Goins' D gives him more upside

[theblujay]

Oh, right, except he is and that's his career mark and he's really s***** so yeah.

 

You know Goins would probably be in the 60s in a full season. That .174 BABIP isn't doing it right though lol. And you love BABIP

[theblujay]

Except, he is.

 

http://i.imgur.com/TSwo430.png

http://i.imgur.com/sTVshUi.png

 

But he's not. Its SSS. He's in the 60s or high 50s

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Question is can Mastro be far behind? Bye bye Sierra.

 

Also does Morrow have options?

 

And would McGowan clear waivers?

 

Thanks

[theblujay]

I wonder if Alex is embarrassed about assembling a "contending" team with no second baseman? I mean, he literally just decided his team didn't need a 2B.

 

He also didn't acquire a starter even after saying he could even get 3.

[GD]

The difference is less than half a win.

 

and yes Goins' D gives him more upside

 

Getz's bat gives him more upside

[GD]

But he's not. Its SSS. He's in the 60s or high 50s

 

So is his defense and also I'd like to see how you can prove he's in the 60's or high 50's.

[Laika]

Getz isn't on the 40 man but Kawasaki is.

 

Kawasaki is a better baseball player than Getz

 

I don't Getz it?

[jayswin11]

McGowan and Morrow maybe both to pen. Kinda useless if they can't get into 5th inning as starters. They could be dominant in pen though.

[theblujay]

So is his defense and also I'd like to see how you can prove he's in the 60's or high 50's.

 

The ROS projections have him there. I'm trying to find the MLE calc but having trouble I'm curious as to what it says

[jayswin11]

Getz isn't on the 40 man but Kawasaki is.

 

Kawasaki is a better baseball player than Getz

 

I don't Getz it?

 

ha ha

[Laika]

Oh wait, Getz is hitting .300 in AAA. Makes sense.

 

#scouts

[theblujay]

Getz's bat gives him more upside

 

Getz has 0 upside. He is what he is. Goins' has limited experience that would allow him to possibly be better with the bat. We've already been over this

[theblujay]

So is his defense and also I'd like to see how you can prove he's in the 60's or high 50's.

 

Nah all evidence points toward him being a plus defender

[GD]

Nah all evidence points toward him being a plus defender

 

Not at his current level

[theblujay]

I have limited experience that would allow me to possibly be better with the bat, but right now I'm not better at baseball than Chris Getz. In that regard Ryan Goins and myself are much the same.

 

But you don't play plus D.

[theblujay]

Not at his current level

Yes

[theblujay]

Not at his current level

 

This year: 24 games---4.3

Last year: 34 games---6.5

 

Quick math says its about the same rate. The same rate you said was (and is) entirely unsustainable. But there's no evidence he isn't plus

[Laika]

Goins' defense this year was as advertised, too bad his bat was even worse than expected. Shocking that it was even possible.

[Laika]

For those in here who follow prospects, Adonys Cardona was pulled from the game in Lansing after an alleged arm injury.

 

Now we can all cry together!

 

Not a prospect

[GD]

This year: 24 games---4.3

Last year: 34 games---6.5

 

Quick math says its about the same rate. The same rate you said was (and is) entirely unsustainable. But there's no evidence he isn't plus

 

Total amount of games - 58

[theblujay]

Goins WAR/PA is way higher than Getz's. So Idk what else to say guys. There's no way having Getz over Goins makes any sense

[theblujay]

Total amount of games - 58

 

Show me your data that says he isn't a plus defender.

[gruber92]

Everybody calm down. Temporary move with the LHP ahead,reason for Kawasaki not being called instead of Getz. Management obviously has no trust in Diaz's bat,especially that late inning pinch hit disaster when he didn't even take the bat off his shoulders with a man on third with less than two out and watching three hittable pitches go by.

 

If AA has no plans on re calling Goins later this week, then he has plans in signing Drew. Either way, i'm happy.

 

There is zero chance that Getz and Diaz stay on the roster long term, ZERO.

[Laika]

Goins WAR/PA is way higher than Getz's. So Idk what else to say guys. There's no way having Getz over Goins makes any sense

 

1) not it's not. Fangraphs.com, bro.

2) WAR is descriptive, not predictive.

3) it makes a lot sense if the organization thinks that Goins can fix his bat a bit with a trip to Buffalo