Jack Morris Leaving for Twins Radio

[reedjohnsonfan]

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?c_id=min&content_id=67063300&partnerId=as_min_20140124_17522554&vkey=pr_min&ymd=20140124

 

Much to my surprise, Jack Morris was great last year as our radio broadcaster. This is really too bad. With Hayhurst out too I wonder who they'll go with.

 

They have Tabler still. He's pretty good.

[KingKat]

They have Tabler still. He's pretty good.

 

ban

[reedjohnsonfan]

ban

 

Oh ok. Cool

[GD]

Reported.

[havok24]

They have Tabler still. He's pretty good.

 

lol reported.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Reported.

 

He's been around since before Cerutti passed away, clearly he's a pretty good colour commentator or they would've canned him by now.

[GD]

Wise decision to delete that post GD.

 

Shh. I didn't delete a post that could have been gravely misconstrued as offensive because I'm running on 3 hours' sleep. This never happened. When you wake up, you will not remember any of this.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Reported again.

 

Reed Johnson minor league deal? Could be a serviceable bench player or at least fill in for injuries.

[GD]

Agreed. Reported anyway.

 

The Jays should put their grudge against Boras in the rear view mirror and sign Drew and Baker?

 

/waits to be reported/

[reedjohnsonfan]

Agreed. Reported anyway.

 

Considering I took a board hiatus for a long time, what's the consensus now? I'm pre-occupied hoping the Jays get Johnson, since I don't think Ubaldo or especially Santana are very good. Unless they make a splash for Samardzjia there's not a whole lot to look forward to other than the SP's improving and some bounce back seasons.

[reedjohnsonfan]

The Jays should put their grudge against Boras in the rear view mirror and sign Drew and Baker?

 

/waits to be reported/

 

Why would you be reported? Can Drew play 2nd? He hasn't ever but if so clearly an upgrade over the junk there now. Baker is also an interesting option assuming they don't go crazy on the other guys.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I tend to agree with you. Consensus is that Ubaldo would be great and Santana would be a disaster.

 

Well you fail to see how entertaining Tabby is but at least you see that those guys wouldn't do much for the Jays. Ubaldo would be great? Give me a break, the guy walks way too many (over 4/9 if I am correct) and is going to be over 30. How on earth could that be a good signing?

[Abomination]

Considering I took a board hiatus for a long time, what's the consensus now? I'm pre-occupied hoping the Jays get Johnson, since I don't think Ubaldo or especially Santana are very good. Unless they make a splash for Samardzjia there's not a whole lot to look forward to other than the SP's improving and some bounce back seasons.

 

I don't think there really is a consensus regarding pitching. I think more people are leaning towards Ubaldo with some other interest in Niemann and Capuano as well, but there's lots of opinions. On the hitting side, I think almost everyone wants Baker. Certainly could live with Johnson though.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I don't think there really is a consensus regarding pitching. I think more people are leaning towards Ubaldo with some other interest in Niemann and Capuano as well, but there's lots of opinions. On the hitting side, I think almost everyone wants Baker. Certainly could live with Johnson though.

 

I thought you were talking about Scott Baker?? He would be an interesting signing.

[GD]

Why would you be reported?

 

I just figured BTS was reporting everything so I wanted to see how far he'd go lol.

 

Shame we have such a f***ing grudge against Boras. Drew would look so purty rn.

[reedjohnsonfan]

I just figured BTS was reporting everything so I wanted to see how far he'd go lol.

 

Shame we have such a f***ing grudge against Boras. Drew would look so purty rn.

 

I'd imagine Drew could be a decent 2B and a good bottom order bat, any word on the $$ he is currently commanding? We could live with Goins/Izturis if it means getting a good starter, but it's heading towards neither happening...

[Abomination]

I thought you were talking about Scott Baker?? He would be an interesting signing.

 

We really aren't a fit for Scott right now imo, but Jeff Baker would be a perfect right-handed super utility kind of guy who could also platoon with Lind.

[Caper]

It would be funny if JPA retired and went right in the booth.

[reedjohnsonfan]

We really aren't a fit for Scott right now imo, but Jeff Baker would be a perfect right-handed super utility kind of guy who could also platoon with Lind.

 

I guess he's going to get promised some starts somewhere, which is something the Jays probably don't want to get into. Jeff Baker would be a nice utility bat, considering there aren't many options left.

 

Honestly... who knows, could there be another big mutiplayer trade coming up? AA needs to essentially save his job, I wouldn't put it passed them. Personally I'd hope Lawrie puts together a good season so they can ship him off but due to PR that might be a tough pill to swallow.

[JJippidy]

Your post:thanks ratio is out of control. You should just retire this account right now.

 

I thought about it, but I kinda like the fact that the only place I can go from here is down, I find the parallels it draws with my life comforting in their familiarity.

[Caper]

It feels a little sad that everyone wants out.

[Nox]

Hard to go wrong when you have the best in the business , Jerry Howarth, doing half of the innings. I'm sure they'll bring in someone decent.

 

Vin Scully died?

[Nox]

They have Tabler still. He's pretty good.

 

The really unfortunate part here is that you're completely serious.

[Olerud363]

Look I know any sentence with "Cito" in it sends you into a fit, but I really can't imagine anyone enjoying Wilner more than Howarth.[/quote

 

If Howarth hates Wilner to the point where they can't work together then this is insane.... I like Howarth. But the entire Wilner/Cito thing was partly about freedom of the press to ask tough questions. How can Wilner ever throw a hard question at anybody if the repurcussion is that he is going to get a suspension and his partner is going to have a forever-grudge against him??

[BarrysSyringe]

Good, now we just gotta get rid of zaun cherry

[Olerud363]

The Jays should put their grudge against Boras in the rear view mirror and sign Drew and Baker?

 

/waits to be reported/

 

Sweet talk Drew into playing second (or Reyes into playing second), Baker platoon at DH. That could be 4 wins right there.

 

So the organization is throwing away 4 wins...

 

1. Because they don't understand how to use advanced statistics to identify weaknesses?? (ie they think Goins 'D' will compensate for his bat but have no way to actually measure if that is true, they think an 8th reliever is more important then a Lind platoon, but again don't know how to measure if this is true).

 

2. They aren't politically savy enough to be on good terms with every agent thus have options eliminated??

 

The two are related. If an organization has a logical evaluation and thought process then they should realize these fueds don't accomplish anything other then to limit options.

 

It's this kind of stuff that inspires my crazier rants. What exactly is the point of a Beeston/Boras fued?? Or the Howarth/Wilner feud mentioned on this thread?? These things don't happen in a good organization.

[Olerud363]

Your first point just nailed the problem with this FO: they don't understand where wins come from. When they sign a Vizquel or DeRosa or trade Napoli for a reliever, or replace Escobar with Reyes they're making moves based on what they 'feel' the result will be, but they aren't looking at the actual effect the decision will have on run differential. This has become painfully obvious to anyone paying attention.

 

As crazy as I am sometimes with the Beeston stuff... well the thing is other people are bringing up the actual issues.

 

According to this thread the Jays don't use numbers, or atleast the right numbers, and there is a Beeston/Boras feud, and there is a Howarth/Wilner feud.

 

Every thread is like this... there is this problem, and that problem, and some other problem.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Why would you want to? He looks like the only position player in the organization who's capable of league-average play and hasn't reached his free agent years.

 

I really think Lawrie is going to be injury prone his whole career. If he has a season where he plays 155 games I can't say I'll change my opinion unless I see a change in the way he plays. Hopefully he puts together a healthy and productive season and they can swap him for another young player before he gets hurt again, but that's very unlikely... if he has a nice season he will be a huge fan favourite again and almost untouchable.

[Boxcar]

Hard to go wrong when you have the best in the business , Jerry Howarth, doing half of the innings. I'm sure they'll bring in someone decent.

 

Jerry Howarth isn't anything special. Lol @ best in the business, bloody homer.

[Olerud363]

Any idea if there are any other front offices arrogant enough to write off talent from a major agency? Or is Toronto just special in that regard?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Loria or someone has burned some bridges. But the good organizations I think are only concerned with winning transactions... not really concerned with who's involved.