connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Sometimes all it takes is a guy like Stroman or Hutch to get a chance and take the league by storm. Not that I'm expecting that, but we do have some younger options that could be a factor this season as well as a ton of rebound candidates. True there are a lot of rebound candidates..but also true theres very few guys you can REALLY count on. Jays are far behind in AL East in that regard
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 86-88 wins seemed very plausible too Certainly felt like a team that was better than .500 Sigh...
GD Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 I think PECOTA had them at like 85. But, PECOTA was using Dickey's FIP-WAR projection and not his RA/9 projection. I believe that once they bumped that up, it was around 87.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Choo, Beltre, Fielder... what an offensive nucleus. Good grief. Rangers are going to get back to winning pennants. If Nof49 is talking ALWest pennants, I easily see them and the A's slugging it out for the next few years.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 If Nof49 is talking ALWest pennants, I easily see them and the A's slugging it out for the next few years. Yep, they're definitely on the A's level now. The AL West should be a lot of fun to watch in 2014. I don't know how my statement was so controversial... in the last four years, Fielder, Beltre and Choo are 7th, 13th and 15th in MLB in wRC+ (min. 1500 PA), respectively. It's a pretty special offensive core! This makes Texas a real World Series contender.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 If he doesn't this year, he will next year. Nah I have plenty of productive young players too! Therealmin is the one who should be worried about an aging core, not me.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Trout says hi. What did Trout say the past two seasons? Angels farm is atrocious, the lineup could be solid if there are some rebounds. The rotation is improved and the pen is meh for me.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Realmin is f***ED in the near future. I think he has a playoff team in 2014, but a lot of his players do worry me. How much can you count on Donaldson, Hanley, Salty and Cuddyer? Each had huge, seemingly-fluky seasons... and the guys (other than Stanton, although he is an injury risk) he has behind them have incomplete skillsets. It's a fairly old group too.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Yep, they're definitely on the A's level now. The AL West should be a lot of fun to watch in 2014. I don't know how my statement was so controversial... in the last four years, Fielder, Beltre and Choo are 7th, 13th and 15th in MLB in wRC+ (min. 1500 PA), respectively. It's a pretty special offensive core! This makes Texas a real World Series contender. They're solid, but I wouldn't necessarily say they're a WS contender.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Can we get an aging curve for A-shuns? I'm certain it's much different than other races
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Can we get an aging curve for A-shuns? I'm certain it's much different than other races Racist Mod. You have been warned.
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 "i honestly liked choo, and then i saw he had 54 rbi's last year.. really?? 130 million?? i think JP had more than him.. he didn't even hit .300 his on base is alright i guess.. but 130 million? hahaha" Never look at comments. MLBTR? I've seen some doozies there.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Has to be said, the Rangers and Yankees have been throwing money around on free agents for years and the majority on here just seem to accept it as standard and enjoy the prospects of how the team might do. If it's the prospects of the Jays doing the same, you get a different reaction. My view, if the Jays added one big bat they'd have an amazing offence next year, and win or lose a pretty exciting team to watch next year. If they overpay for a pitcher like Santana, they may not get "value" but they'll be a competitive team. If they did both ( as the Rangers have done over and over again most of the last 6-8 years ), they would no doubt have been in the playoff hunt next season. Let's not pretend though that spending money on players wasn't a big part of their strategy. Jays are a big budget team often operating like a moderate one. If there is one top criticism that the Jays of the last 10-12 years deserve, it has been getting cheap more often then not. This was not the way the Jays operated under Gillick. The young guys on here never experienced that era, but we were that team. We filled the stadium, went out and got top free agents ( even hall of famers ) when needed, and money was not an issue. Less guys available now, one would hope the Jays acquire one big player because that would easily fit the budget still and give some glimmer of hope we can contend next season. I don't care how many wins the stats say we need, we are a lot closer to being competitive then the numbers say. The possibility that AA has gotten gun shy and does nothing much would not surprise me, he failed to make the logical moves during last season and I'm somewhat surprised he's still employed at this point. A few recent minor moves ( dropping Johnson, JPA ) were commendable, but only if he truly adds the one big starter he keeps talking about does his recent body of work make any sense. As I posted before, if a strong starter was not likely available, I'd have preferred they add two decent position players and roll the dice on the pitching. That would have created an entertaining team at a minimum. Most of the logical hitters are getting signed now by other teams. My guess is he's trying to trade an outfielder and middle relief for a quality starter and a 2B. Might be Seattle holding things up, and Philadelphia might be in the mix but they seem a little goofy at times evaluating their players ( unwilling to rebuild when they have to ). If this fails, they probably go all in on Tanaka or Santana trying to get them to sign, with no guarantees they win the auction. At which point they may claim they tried, pick up Ackley and that's it. Are you capable of writing a long winded rant where you don't refer to the 1980's/1990's? Also, you want to use the word "fewer" there.
Cooler Heads Prevail Verified Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Are you capable of writing a long winded rant where you don't refer to the 1980's/1990's? Also, you want to use the word "fewer" there. Reported. Let's see how serious the mods are about ending these childish games on here. No baseball content and no attempt to anything other then create arguments.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Reported. Let's see how serious the mods are about ending these childish games on here. No baseball content and no attempt to anything other then create arguments. They could also alternatively just turn the forum into some kind of version of "pattycake" and call it a day
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