G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Oh boy http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/anthopoulos-may-be-serious-about-jays-in-house-options/
havok24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 So Ryan Goins is really going to be our starting 2B in 2014? Yeah.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 This free agency does not have the pieces to build/finished a good rotation and when this happen the trade value rise a lot. f*** Ervin, f*** Garza, f*** Ubaldo, f*** Shark (Stroman+Sanchez) and f*** Price (Stroman+Sanchez+Norris+Tirado+++++)
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 18, 2013 Author Posted December 18, 2013 So Ryan Goins is really going to be our starting 2B in 2014? Yeah. The Blue Jays are taking the same approach at second base, and for now appear content to take Ryan Goins and his plus-defence in some sort of job-share arrangement with Maicer Izturis. They talked to the Rangers about Ian Kinsler before Texas shifted gears and traded him to the Detroit Tigers for Prince Fielder, and kept tabs on Omar Infante and Mark Ellis, both of whom would likely have needed a premium on what they signed for to head north.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 I really get the feeling that AA doesn't have much at all in the way of payroll flexibility. I really get the feeling that AA doesn't have much at all in the way of knowing how to construct a major league baseball team
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 I really get the feeling that AA doesn't have much at all in the way of payroll flexibility. That makes the Marlins trade look like a colossal disaster.
leaffie Verified Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Really, is anyone seriously surprised. No one, and I mean no one is willing to trade prospects. As far as pitching goes, there is Tanaka, which the Jays aren't getting, Price, that would mean giving up the farm plus for, and a bunch of injury risks , like Garza etc. That there are no more guarantees with them, than what the Jays already have.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I pretty much gave up on this team making the necessary moves after the deadline passed. The fact that a Goins/Izzy platoon seems fine with our GM spells incredible trouble for this team. No chance this team competes without either two upgrades to the rotation or a rotation and 2B upgrade. The competition in the division is just too strong to stand pat.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 As long as AA is fired when they miss the playoffs this isn't a worst-case scenario. I think I'd want AA around if this team crashed, burned and went into another rebuild lol. Fire him when it's time to contend again.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 If "looking at in-house options" means considering Stroman and Hutchison as rotation options, then I don't see the problem. If the Cubs really want Stroman + Sanchez for Samardzija, I'm glad we're out on him. Tanaka is going to be way out of our price range, so let's not go gettin our hopes up there either. Garza makes some sense, but he's got a lot of suitors.
leaffie Verified Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 No actually, I didn't predict anything. I have always thought that AA would stick with Goins, and spend the money on pitching. But every team out there is looking for pitching and the price is too high. I predict that he will still sign a pitcher, but it won't be a top tier. So there you go, a prediction from me.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I would rather AA do nothing, finish the season with a mediocre record and get fired; than have him pull a Jack Z, make a bunch of s***** moves to try and save his job, miss the playoffs while setting us back 5+ years, and then get fired.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 No actually, I didn't predict anything. I have always thought that AA would stick with Goins, and spend the money on pitching. But every team out there is looking for pitching and the price is too high. I predict that he will still sign a pitcher, but it won't be a top tier. So there you go, a prediction from me. Most of the ones that aren't top tier are probably no better than our in-house options.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Alex schemes do not see more than of one year, he didn't know that this free agency is s***.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 It also means Goins at 2B This would be acceptable if we didn't already have question marks in LF and C, unless you consider Melky and Navarro sure things. An all glove middle infielder is a great way to save payroll if our rotation didn't have huge question marks after Dickey and Buehrle who both combined will average 37 years of age come opening day. It's actually a great idea, however the rest of our roster doesn't support this type of risk.
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 And apparently, many teams are balking on Garza. Apparently it's questions about the screw in his elbow and his injury risk. Nobody wants to give him a long-term deal due to this. Nobody will touch Ubaldo Jimenez either due to previous erraticness outside of the 2nd half of this season. Same thing with Ervin Santana--2013 was a career year, and not worth blowing a ton of money on. We're better off either making trades or seeing what we have in our farm--it is much deeper than last year with the progress of Nolin and Stroman, and the health of Hutchison and Drabek. And there's the possibility Romero might rebound as well.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Is it really so hard to make a trade for Ackley or Franklin? Jesus f***
crmr Verified Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 This team is going to be baaaaaad
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Unless you're the Red Sox or Rays, most of the AL East isn't exactly swimming in pitching depth either. Orioles, Yanks and us all have questions in our rotation
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Unless you're the Red Sox or Rays, most of the AL East isn't exactly swimming in pitching depth either. Orioles, Yanks and us all have questions in our rotation Gausman 150 IP> Dickey, Buehrle, Morrow, Happ, Rogers, Hutchison
crmr Verified Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 I guess we will never know, but I have to believe FA's simply don't want to come to Toronto
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 This team is going to be baaaaaad Don't be silly. Just need some of this: http://www.ambrosiasw.com/assets/images/news/lightningshirt.gif
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 I guess we will never know, but I have to believe FA's simply don't want to come to Toronto Seems that way, at the moment anyhow
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Unless you're the Red Sox or Rays, most of the AL East isn't exactly swimming in pitching depth either. Orioles, Yanks and us all have questions in our rotation Sure, but as is I think this team can't possibly finish any higher than third and more likely are the worst team in the division. It's close though, two upgrades and I think their chances increase significantly. Right now this team falls under the category of pretender.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Gausman 150 IP> Dickey, Buehrle, Morrow, Happ, Rogers, Hutchison Come on Angie.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Gausman 150 IP> Dickey I'll take that action.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Bench option only, Goins should not be a starter on this team. Should not and will be are two different things. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to your 2014 0 WAR starting 2B platoon.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Unless you're the Red Sox or Rays, most of the AL East isn't exactly swimming in pitching depth either. Orioles, Yanks and us all have questions in our rotation I'm not even sure I would put the Red Sox in that category. They definitely have the potential though when things go mostly right for them like last year.
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