jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Tigers To Acquire Prince Fielder For Ian Kinsler By Zach Links [November 20 at 7:21pm CST] The Tigers have agreed to trade Prince Fielder to the Rangers for Ian Kinsler, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. There could be another player involved in the trade as well, but that hasn't been confirmed, Heyman writes. There could also be money involved to offset the difference between Fielder's contract and Kinsler's. The Rangers were in the mix for Fielder when he was on the open market a couple years ago before the Tigers signed him to a nine-year, $214MM deal. Fielder took a step back in 2013, posting a .279/.362/.457 slash line as opposed to the .287/.393/.538 batting line he posted in his previous eight campaigns. For all of the concern over his conditioning, Fielder sure has been durable - the slugger has missed just one regular season game in the last five seasons. Aside from giving Texas a five-time All-Star with a big bat, the deal would have the added benefit of opening up second base for Jurickson Profar. Kinsler's name has been on MLBTR quite a bit in recent months thanks to the Rangers' middle infield logjam and lack of quality second base options available on the open market outside of kingpin Robinson Cano. The veteran has spent his entire career with Texas, hitting .273/.349/.454 across eight big league seasons. While not on the level of Fielder's deal, the 31-year-old has a pretty decent-sized contract himself as he is owed $57MM through 2017. FIelder has a limited no-trade clause as a part of his contract and it turns out that Texas was on his no-trade list, but he apparently waived it to help facilitate the deal.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Author Posted November 21, 2013 Didn't see that one coming.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Author Posted November 21, 2013 I just saw it was posted in the "around baseball" thread. apologies. Probably worth it's own thread though.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Tigers To Acquire Prince Fielder For Ian Kinsler By Zach Links [November 20 at 7:21pm CST] The Tigers have agreed to trade Prince Fielder to the Rangers for Ian Kinsler, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. There could be another player involved in the trade as well, but that hasn't been confirmed, Heyman writes. There could also be money involved to offset the difference between Fielder's contract and Kinsler's. The Rangers were in the mix for Fielder when he was on the open market a couple years ago before the Tigers signed him to a nine-year, $214MM deal. Fielder took a step back in 2013, posting a .279/.362/.457 slash line as opposed to the .287/.393/.538 batting line he posted in his previous eight campaigns. For all of the concern over his conditioning, Fielder sure has been durable - the slugger has missed just one regular season game in the last five seasons. Aside from giving Texas a five-time All-Star with a big bat, the deal would have the added benefit of opening up second base for Jurickson Profar. Kinsler's name has been on MLBTR quite a bit in recent months thanks to the Rangers' middle infield logjam and lack of quality second base options available on the open market outside of kingpin Robinson Cano. The veteran has spent his entire career with Texas, hitting .273/.349/.454 across eight big league seasons. While not on the level of Fielder's deal, the 31-year-old has a pretty decent-sized contract himself as he is owed $57MM through 2017. FIelder has a limited no-trade clause as a part of his contract and it turns out that Texas was on his no-trade list, but he apparently waived it to help facilitate the deal. Wow, didn't expect THAT. In other news, Miggy's defensive value just went up.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Author Posted November 21, 2013 I guess Profar is staying put now....
TRM Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Tigers To Acquire Prince Fielder For Ian Kinsler By Zach Links [November 20 at 7:21pm CST] The Tigers have agreed to trade Prince Fielder to the Rangers for Ian Kinsler, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. There could be another player involved in the trade as well, but that hasn't been confirmed, Heyman writes. There could also be money involved to offset the difference between Fielder's contract and Kinsler's. The Rangers were in the mix for Fielder when he was on the open market a couple years ago before the Tigers signed him to a nine-year, $214MM deal. Fielder took a step back in 2013, posting a .279/.362/.457 slash line as opposed to the .287/.393/.538 batting line he posted in his previous eight campaigns. For all of the concern over his conditioning, Fielder sure has been durable - the slugger has missed just one regular season game in the last five seasons. Aside from giving Texas a five-time All-Star with a big bat, the deal would have the added benefit of opening up second base for Jurickson Profar. Kinsler's name has been on MLBTR quite a bit in recent months thanks to the Rangers' middle infield logjam and lack of quality second base options available on the open market outside of kingpin Robinson Cano. The veteran has spent his entire career with Texas, hitting .273/.349/.454 across eight big league seasons. While not on the level of Fielder's deal, the 31-year-old has a pretty decent-sized contract himself as he is owed $57MM through 2017. FIelder has a limited no-trade clause as a part of his contract and it turns out that Texas was on his no-trade list, but he apparently waived it to help facilitate the deal. Aren't you the d00d who thought we should keep JPA? We can't trust this guy!
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Author Posted November 21, 2013 Some people on Twitter seem to think the money involved is $40 million to Texas. Would not surprise me if some money is going to Texas. 40 million seems high though
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Some people on Twitter seem to think the money involved is $40 million to Texas. If that's true, the equivalent of 18M / year for Prince is a hell of a lot better than 24M. They'll probably get reasonable value on that. On the flip side, Detroit paying the equivalent of 22M / year for Kinsler isn't quite as favorable.
Convo Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Smart move by the Tigers. Good 2B are at a premium. Kinsler is underpaid and undervalued, Prince is overvalued. In addition Miggy provides more value at 1B.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Author Posted November 21, 2013 Smart move by the Tigers. Good 2B are at a premium. Kinsler is underpaid and undervalued, Prince is overvalued. In addition Miggy provides more value at 1B. Not sure i would go as far as saying Kinsler is "underpaid".
TRM Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Guys we can't trust op he said he likes jpa!!!!
TRM Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Next thing we know he'll be saying that AA is skinny and Escobar liked homosexuals!
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I have to say this is a terrible deal for Detroit If prince was out there why isn't AA involved. How long do we have To Sit and stare at that sorry excuse adam lind Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 Hey let's trade for Fielder and not make another move because we're f***ing broke. WoooooHooo!!!
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Thanks I'm glad you agree friend Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 I don't.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Who hit first, hit twice.............Alex f*** you #NoProfar
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Morosi confirms that no other players are involved: This is surely the most impactful one-for-one ever... like WTF. So much money. He must have really been wearing on the Tigers. Poor post season performance and a really crappy attitude about it.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Author Posted November 21, 2013 Aren't you that guy who suggested JPA for DH? It's hard to see anything when you are lacking a brain. It's getting old, bro. I know you don't think it was actually me. No hard feelings. you got me pretty riled up though haha
TRM Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 It's getting old, bro. I know you don't think it was actually me. No hard feelings. you got me pretty riled up though haha hahahaha. claaaaaaaassssssssssiiiicccccccc
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 There's probably a pride thing in getting traded. Like at first you're shocked. Then curious where you're going. Texas? Wow. Then it's like I wonder who I got traded for? Wow maybe it's for Darvish and Profar! No? Who? IAN f***ING KJNSLER WHAT THE f***???
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 What the hell are the Rangers doing
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Fielder out, Scherzer ext, Porcello out AA, do it, get Porcello
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I guess the off season is no longer slow...wow! Like others have said, have to wait and see how much $ is going to Texas, but having the cheap option at 2B in Profar also helps to pay for Fielder's huge salary. Do the Tigers now go out and sign a power hitter? Adam Lind for Porcello anyone? Gotta love the off season...except for when AA is getting bent over in trades of course.
FireAlexAnthopoulos Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Other teams are getting s*** done and we're still stuck here with JPA on the roster.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 What the hell are the Rangers doing Taking on bad contracts?
raBBit Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Tigers win getting that contract out from underneath.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 That's our thing. They should get their own
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Fielder out, Scherzer ext, Porcello out AA, do it, get Porcello Would Buehrle and Janssen/Delabar/Cecil + Nolin land you Porcello?
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Other teams are getting s*** done and we're still stuck here with JPA on the roster. Everyone is trying to shuffle payroll for FA right now.
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