Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I think we're going to get a surprisingly good year out of Drew Hutchison Fixed that for you lol
BarrysSyringe Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Dickey not really. Morrow maybe. I don't expect Buehrle to be as good. I think we can expect buehrle to put up around the same numbers as this year. *IF* morrow can ever stay healthy, i think he can be one of the front of the rotation guys we are looking for. I love the idea of peocello for jannsen, as i think hes a potential #3 arm going forward. Anyone interested in signing lincecum?
Howard Roark Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Such a depressing discussion. We need Boston's luck from this year to even have a chance of competing for the second WC spot in '14.
BarrysSyringe Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Kyle Drabek's Steamer: 7.07 K/9, 4.00 BB/9, 0.80 HR/9 ... 4.11 ERA, 4.06 FIP. There's the #3/4 starter we're looking for! I realize Kyle has been a dissapointment so far in his career but why does everyone want to just give him away. If he could ever get some kind of control hes a very very good pitcher. That is a big if though. Why not just keep him in buffallo and see if he can find some consistency
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Kyle Drabek's Steamer: 7.07 K/9, 4.00 BB/9, 0.80 HR/9 ... 4.11 ERA, 4.06 FIP. There's the #3/4 starter we're looking for! Can I get a guarantee on that?
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I realize Kyle has been a dissapointment so far in his career but why does everyone want to just give him away. If he could ever get some kind of control hes a very very good pitcher. That is a big if though. Why not just keep him in buffallo and see if he can find some consistency I don't get it either, and reports from this year seemed to indicate that he's made good mental improvements. His walk rate during rehab this year was fantastic.
BarrysSyringe Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah I still think Drabek has a chance to become something. His walk numbers were manageable in the Minors, so there's reason to believe he can perform better than the 14.3 BB% rate from his short MLB career. Its just baffling to me that people would be willing to just throw him into trades like hes a complete write off. Still could have something there
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I'll go out on a limb here: Kyle Drabek will have more value as a major leaguer over the next 5 years than Ricky Romero will
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Its just baffling to me that people would be willing to just throw him into trades like hes a complete write off. Still could have something there Yep. I've been as down on him as anyone, but I like what we heard about him, and saw from him the year, on top of a high baseline talent level.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Drabek = 0.3 WAR Romero = -0.1 WAR Hahaha I'm hoping it's more like 12 WAR to 0 (ie. Drabek is actually good and Romero never plays) I just can't handle occasionally getting my hopes up for Ricky and then being disappointed time and time again
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Rick Porcello's Steamer projections: 7.45 / 1.55 / 0.67, for a 2.94 ERA, 2.96 FIP. We HAVE to get this guy. I'm down And the Tigers need bullpen help We can make it work
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Hahaha I'm hoping it's more like 12 WAR to 0 (ie. Drabek is actually good and Romero never plays) I just can't handle occasionally getting my hopes up for Ricky and then being disappointed time and time again Drabek strikes me like the type of guy who can get really hot/consistent and go on a tear for a few months and make a difference. 1.3 BB/9 in decent amount of innings in the minors last year... Polar opposite of his previous two MLB seasons. It's 100% between the ears with this guy.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Drabek strikes me like the type of guy who can get really hot/consistent and go on a tear for a few months and make a difference. 1.3 BB/9 in decent amount of innings in the minors last year... Polar opposite of his previous two MLB seasons. It's 100% between the ears with this guy. He has nasty stuff. I'm curios what Jamie Evans can do for his arm, hopefully he'll be on the field next year.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Rick Porcello's Steamer projections: 7.45 / 1.55 / 0.67, for a 2.94 ERA, 2.96 FIP. We HAVE to get this guy. I'm on board, just make sure Gibbons goes with Goins, Reyes and Lawrie in the IF during his starts to support that GB rate.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I'm on board, just make sure Gibbons goes with Goins, Reyes and Lawrie in the IF during his starts to support that GB rate. I wonder if Lawrie 3B Goins SS Izturis 2B Reyes DH on Porcello starts might be better not only for Porcello's GB rate but it'd also give Reyes a little rest every once in a while.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I wonder if Lawrie 3B Goins SS Izturis 2B Reyes DH on Porcello starts might be better not only for Porcello's GB rate but it'd also give Reyes a little rest every once in a while. If Izturis is really as bad as he was this year, you'd gain nothing by doing that.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 If Izturis is really as bad as he was this year, you'd gain nothing by doing that. Ya, in that scenario there should already be a starting 2B that is getting rest...
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 If Izturis is really as bad as he was this year, you'd gain nothing by doing that. I have a hard time believing that a generally positive defender goes from ~2 defensive runs to -11. I think he'll rebound in the field.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I'm on board, just make sure Gibbons goes with Goins, Reyes and Lawrie in the IF during his starts to support that GB rate. Alternatively when he starts you could move Bautista to 3rd and go with a 5 man infield with Gose and Rasmus in the outfield. Would be an interesting experiment, especially if Porcello keeps the high gb rate with 7+ k's.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I have a hard time believing that a generally positive defender goes from ~2 defensive runs to -11. I think he'll rebound in the field. I wonder if there's ever been a good study of astro turf and why certain fielders struggle with it while others strive? I remember back in Tony Fernandez's day, he was known as a great astroturf fielder, someone who in theory wouldn't be as good on grass. Whether there was any substance to it or if it was just media ******** to dismiss his abilities is not something I know although the later seems likely.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Alternatively when he starts you could move Bautista to 3rd and go with a 5 man infield with Gose and Rasmus in the outfield. Would be an interesting experiment, especially if Porcello keeps the high gb rate with 7+ k's. That would be ballsy and awesome especially if Gose is on the team and you could get him and Rasmus to cover the whole outfield. I would love to see s*** like that but without Butterfield around, it would be a small miracle to see the shift again much less something this radical. I would go to a Porcello start just to see this if it were real.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Never underestimate the power of the Blue Jays organization. Every casual fan and our casual front office just had a heart attack That answer your question?
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