GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Again, why on earth would you post the Jays of all teams "don't have the money to add". Come on now get your head screwed on straight. The chances the Jays get "gutted" is ZERO. To illustrate, tell me the last year that the Yankees or the Red Sox got "gutted". Do you really think Boston is a big market and Toronto ( and in some ways Canada ) isn't ? Tired of these lame ideas about the Jays payroll. So why would a "big market" team like Toronto have long stretches of real lean years?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Because it's only possible to contend in two-year windows! Why waste your money in years that aren't in the window. Sooo, guess what team is on this idiot's list for Robinson Cano?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Because it's only possible to contend in two-year windows! It is for the Blue Jays, Marlins, Phillies, et al Funny how the Cardinals, Yankees and Red Sox keep defying that damn rule
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Sooo, guess what team is on this idiot's list for Robinson Cano? Yeah, the Rangers are so gonna go after Cano with Profar, Kinsler, Andrus and Beltre in the infield. Ugh Heyman. Actually reading the article, I enjoyed how he lists the 10 teams who he thinks could go after him, and then argues against them.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Actually reading the article, I enjoyed how he lists the 10 teams who he thinks could go after him, and then argues against them. Yep. #YankeeForLife
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Yeah, the Rangers are so gonna go after Cano with Profar, Kinsler, Andrus and Beltre in the infield. Ugh Heyman. Actually reading the article, I enjoyed how he lists the 10 teams who he thinks could go after him, and then argues against them. He doesn't want to make an actual prediction, so he's equivocating.
Cooler Heads Prevail Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 So why would a "big market" team like Toronto have long stretches of real lean years? Do I really have to post this again ? Seriously, we had a modest payroll most of those years. Ownership chose to operate liked a mid market team and expected Toronto to continue to support them regardless of their success on the field. There were at least two years since 1993 that simply having one more top rank player probably would have got them into the playoff hunt. Look at the list of recent payrolls this site provides. $46 million was a joke for this market.
Cooler Heads Prevail Verified Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 It is for the Blue Jays, Marlins, Phillies, et al Funny how the Cardinals, Yankees and Red Sox keep defying that damn rule 1983-1993 is an 11 year period of contention. If my memory is good, 1983 our young team was in contention but lacked a reliable bullpen closer and we lost something like 6 games in two weeks in the 9th inning.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 1983-1993 is an 11 year period of contention. If my memory is good, 1983 our young team was in contention but lacked a reliable bullpen closer and we lost something like 6 games in two weeks in the 9th inning. Yeah, our oldest regular was Cliff Johnson, 35 or something, and our best reliever was Roy Lee Jackson, who managed all of .6 fWAR in 92 innings.
kgm1 Verified Member Posted October 25, 2013 Author Posted October 25, 2013 Again, why on earth would you post the Jays of all teams "don't have the money to add". Come on now get your head screwed on straight. The chances the Jays get "gutted" is ZERO. To illustrate, tell me the last year that the Yankees or the Red Sox got "gutted". Do you really think Boston is a big market and Toronto ( and in some ways Canada ) isn't ? Tired of these lame ideas about the Jays payroll. The Jays payroll has gone up from well under 100 mil in 2012 to 117 mil in 2013 to a projected 134 mil without adding in 2014 . What makes you so sure Rogers will keep adding more ? If you had read all the posts I said """ IF """" the Jays don't have any money to spend . I have no idea what their budget will be . I voted they would have a 10 mil increase but IF , IF they don't what do you do ?
fireballW Verified Member Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 The Jays payroll has gone up from well under 100 mil in 2012 to 117 mil in 2013 to a projected 134 mil without adding in 2014 . What makes you so sure Rogers will keep adding more ? If you had read all the posts I said """ IF """" the Jays don't have any money to spend . I have no idea what their budget will be . I voted they would have a 10 mil increase but IF , IF they don't what do you do ? You sign Roy Halladay for cheap, put him on the weighted ball program and keep your fingers crossed.
Cooler Heads Prevail Verified Member Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 The Jays payroll has gone up from well under 100 mil in 2012 to 117 mil in 2013 to a projected 134 mil without adding in 2014 . What makes you so sure Rogers will keep adding more ? If you had read all the posts I said """ IF """" the Jays don't have any money to spend . I have no idea what their budget will be . I voted they would have a 10 mil increase but IF , IF they don't what do you do ? If the players are available I think they could do at least $160M with ease. Several reasons for this. Rogers benefits from baseball content on their main product line, this media convergence strategy is paying off big at the moment in many markets. Overall market value of the teams is growing, so unless you are losing great wads of cash every year its not a bad business to be in anyways. And attendance increasing with a losing team is hardly a negative, but probably less important then the first two points at the moment. C$/U$ is fine and I doubt with the US govt debt levels where they are we will see a massive drop in the C$. Sure things could chance 5 years from now, but for now there is no real constraint to spending money up until the luxury tax.
kgm1 Verified Member Posted October 25, 2013 Author Posted October 25, 2013 And you may be right . a budget of 160 mil seems unlikely to me but I sure as hell didn't see the 117 and 134 mil coming either . All I posted was what IF AA doesn't have any more and Morrow is hurt . I keep posting that I think Morrow is the key . A healthy Morrow with a better Dickey gives the Jays a shot even with a huge increase in payroll .
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 You sign Roy Halladay for cheap, put him on the weighted ball program and keep your fingers crossed. So, give up?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 13, 2013 Posted November 13, 2013 Vamos a gastar dinero baby!!!!
kgm1 Verified Member Posted November 13, 2013 Author Posted November 13, 2013 Now WTF does that mean Ang . I have a hard enough time understanding some of the English spoken on this board , never mind translating Spanish .
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 13, 2013 Posted November 13, 2013 Now WTF does that mean Ang . I have a hard enough time understanding some of the English spoken on this board , never mind translating Spanish . Let's spend money baby!!
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