G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130916&content_id=60757022&vkey=news_tor&c_id=tor Melky Cabrera seemed to be a player on the decline this season, but do you think the tumour that was removed from his back can help explain why he looked so bad? Or do you think his best years are now behind him? -- Adam D., Barrie, Ontario The Blue Jays spent almost this entire season trying to figure out what was wrong with Cabrera. He arrived at Spring Training in good shape, was moving well and appeared set to have a successful season after signing a two-year, $16 million contract during the offseason. But the problems began almost immediately, as Cabrera began the season with a lack of mobility on the basepaths and in left field. Some struggles at the plate would have been understandable, but it was incredibly bizarre to see someone at just 29 years old moving around with so much difficulty. Toronto examined both of Cabrera's legs on multiple occasions but couldn't find a cause. It wasn't until the former All-Star admitted to having back pain that the organization found the benign tumour and was able to have it removed without any complications in early September. The presence of a tumour can never be considered a positive thing, but at least now the Blue Jays have something concrete to point to as being a main reason behind his lack of mobility. The location of the tumor inside of Cabrera's spine created a lot of pressure and ultimately sent waves of pains through his legs. That should now be a thing of the past, and the Blue Jays can realistically hope for a bounce-back season in 2014. There are no guarantees it will happen, but Cabrera is expected to make a full recovery prior to Spring Training, and considering he is set to earn $8 million next season, he will be given every opportunity to win regular playing time. Do you expect the Blue Jays to pick up Adam Lind's option for next season? Or will they look elsewhere for help in the middle of the order? -- Justin R., Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island Lind's chances of being back next year seemed remote a couple of months ago, but that has changed in recent weeks. The main reason is that the Blue Jays found the cause behind Cabrera's issues this season, which has opened up another spot in the lineup. The line of thinking back in July was that Cabrera would probably need to shift to designated hitter because of his lack of range in left field. Now that Toronto diagnosed Cabrera's problem, he is once again expected to start in the field, which opens up the DH spot for someone else. It's a position that Lind has been accustomed to for the past few seasons, and there's a realistic shot he could have his $7 million team option picked up for next year. If Toronto did decide to part ways with Lind, it would still cost the club a $2 million buyout, so the difference of $5 million might not be that expensive for a player who just surpassed the 20-homer plateau, while maintaining an average above .270 for most of the year.
BarrysSyringe Verified Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Do you expect the Blue Jays to pick up Adam Lind's option for next season? Or will they look elsewhere for help in the middle of the order? -- Justin R., Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island Lind's chances of being back next year seemed remote a couple of months ago, but that has changed in recent weeks. The main reason is that the Blue Jays found the cause behind Cabrera's issues this season, which has opened up another spot in the lineup. The line of thinking back in July was that Cabrera would probably need to shift to designated hitter because of his lack of range in left field. Now that Toronto diagnosed Cabrera's problem, he is once again expected to start in the field, which opens up the DH spot for someone else. It's a position that Lind has been accustomed to for the past few seasons, and there's a realistic shot he could have his $7 million team option picked up for next year. If Toronto did decide to part ways with Lind, it would still cost the club a $2 million buyout, so the difference of $5 million might not be that expensive for a player who just surpassed the 20-homer plateau, while maintaining an average above .270 for most of the year. Did AA not say that he wants to improve the defence at 1st base? Lind should not be back.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Did AA not say that he wants to improve the defence at 1st base? Lind should not be back. Didn't Edwin play 1B about 70% of the time?
kcjaysfan Verified Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Didn't Edwin play 1B about 70% of the time? He's played about 55% of his games there this season, which is about 52% of the 1B innings for the team.
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Lind is a $5 platoon DH for the Jays next year. If you're filling DH cheaply in free agency, that's basically what you look for anyway. With several bigger needs, might as well just pick up the option. ... can't believe I just said that.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Lind is a $5 platoon DH for the Jays next year. If you're filling DH cheaply in free agency, that's basically what you look for anyway. With several bigger needs, might as well just pick up the option. ... can't believe I just said that. I bet you tasted throw up?
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I say we keep Lind and sign or trade for someone who can mash leftys. Pair the two of them up for the whole season. You'd pretty much have an elite hitter at DH/1B for the cost of 10mil, when on the open market a player like that would be 20mil.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I say we keep Lind and sign or trade for someone who can mash leftys. Pair the two of them up for the whole season. You'd pretty much have an elite hitter at DH/1B for the cost of 10mil, when on the open market a player like that would be 20mil. Precisely Thumbs up
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Paul Konerko 2013 vs LHP: .330/.413/.560 (OPS .974) BA .225 vs RHP Free agent this off season Who wants?? Could you get for 2 years @ 3-4M per?
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Paul Konerko 2013 vs LHP: .330/.413/.560 (OPS .974) BA .225 vs RHP Free agent this off season Who wants?? Could you get for 2 years @ 3-4M per? Konerko would be a good choice. With his and Lind's split stats for the pitchers they would be facing over 600 PA would equal out to be... .305/.384/.915 with 28HR. All for only 10-12 mil. No one can say that would be bad production for that price for DH. How much would a player sign for that would put up that stat line? There is our "Choo bat" at half the price.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Free agent this off season He's done after this year lol
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 He's done after this year lol s***. Announced retirement did he??
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Not definite: http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1769995-chicago-white-sox-is-this-the-end-for-paul-konerko
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 I figure he'll retire, but if he doesn't, man that would be interesting.
flafson Verified Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Is it really worth it though? We forced Oliver out of retirement and he wasn't such a great surprise...
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 The problem with Konerko is he can only play first base. Same as Lind. Same as Encarnacion.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 The problem with Konerko is he can only play first base. Same as Lind. Same as Encarnacion. The problem with Ziggy is he doesn't get it... Doesn't know what a platoon is.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 16, 2013 Posted September 16, 2013 Is it really worth it though? We forced Oliver out of retirement and he wasn't such a great surprise... Because Darren Oliver is certainly a comparable to Paul Konerko lol
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 They don't get much more "Vetrin" than Konerko #CitoBall
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 You'd need 2 pinch runners on the bench to deal with a Lind/Konerko platoon
kgm1 Verified Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I have mixed feelings about Lind. He's worth the money in a vacuum but it would be nice to move Melky to dh instead of him. The Jays should definitely test the waters to see if they can get something decent in return (probably not since Morales is a free agent but it's worth a shot). In all likeliness, the best play will be to keep him and hope Melky is mobile next year. It makes me nervous but there won't be a successful 2014 without a bunch of finger crossing anyways. If Melky can't play the outfield then he is a bench bat or DFA guy
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 You'd need 2 pinch runners on the bench to deal with a Lind/Konerko platoon You'd only really need one, for late in the game when they get on base. Gose! Then he goes in for a defensive replacement for Melky.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 You'd only really need one, for late in the game when they get on base. Gose! Then he goes in for a defensive replacement for Melky. Yeah, I was fececiously exaggerating.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I do wish our utility IF was speedier though
GD Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I do wish our utility IF was speedier though Think we should go after that Bonifacio kid on the Royals? I hear he's pretty speedy
kgm1 Verified Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Last year the options were Gomes and Hairiston . Both RHB that would have been great in a platoon with Lind .. This Offseason there will be others but he has to play the outfield or 3rd base . Lind did his job this year and AA will pick up the option . People need to take a look at 1st base /DH and where Lind is OPS wise . Just in and out of the top ten . Ahead of Agon , Fielder etc. People have to be really stupid to think he isn't worth 5 mil . Pretty damn cheap bat considering what is out there . AA needs to fix a lot of problems and Lind,s bat is far far down the list .
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I do wish our utility IF was speedier though Alexi Casilla?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Author Posted September 17, 2013 Konerko? --- We are talking about who will be the asylum President? Lind is best offensive player than Melky "el cabron"
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Last year the options were Gomes and Hairiston . Both RHB that would have been great in a platoon with Lind .. This Offseason there will be others but he has to play the outfield or 3rd base . Lind did his job this year and AA will pick up the option . People need to take a look at 1st base /DH and where Lind is OPS wise . Just in and out of the top ten . Ahead of Agon , Fielder etc. People have to be really stupid to think he isn't worth 5 mil . Pretty damn cheap bat considering what is out there . AA needs to fix a lot of problems and Lind,s bat is far far down the list . It's a weak market anyways for 1B this offseason - off the top of my head guys like LaRoche, and Loney are the top options at those positions. I have no problem with the Jays keeping Lind as a 1B/DH. If the Jays could find a platoon partner with him, a right handed bat with pop and who crushes lefties, that would be the most ideal scenario.
KSaw Verified Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Not all lefties are Lester and Price caliber tho Hilarious thing to say being that he has always hit lefty starters far better than lefty relievers.
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