Can Moises Sierra stick?

[John_Havok]

Discuss.

[havok24]

Yup. Sierra is the next Nelson Cruz.

[John_Havok]

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I knew you couldn't resist.

[gruber92]

Sierra is killing it right now. He's hitting .291/.344/.545 with a .372 wOBA and 134 wRC+. I think that he's starting to show his true potential, he's just all around got good baseball smarts. I could see him replacing Bautista next season, and going onto having a David Ortiz type career.

 

If it was up to you guys, there would be nobody

in the majors.

 

Lol

[reedjohnsonfan]

If it was up to you guys, there would be nobody

in the majors.

 

Lol

 

+1. But with Sierra the guy is obviously pretty bad in the OF. His bat is decent though, if Melky isn't looking so good next year they need to try someone else and Sierra should be given a shot. I'm not convinced with Gose, great defense but the guy can't hit and anyone who tells you otherwise is just blind.

[gruber92]

There are only 25 Major League spots per team, and there are about 35 players in each organization that are as good as or better than Sierra. Why let bad players play? Get somebody with more talent in there.

 

 

I'm just f***ing with them. Sierra may turn out to have an average bat, but he's as dumb as a stump.

[Jays]

This thread is completely unnecessary. Sierra is just a doubles MACHINE out there. The next Manny Machado.

[Ehh]

Don't be silly here guys. You're seriously underestimating Sierra. I see him as a rich mans Roberto Clemente

[admin]

I remember last year Buck or Tabler were saying, DM was saying Sierra had the most raw potential out of all Jays hitters. I don't think he meant in the minor leagues either.

Here is CM on him, one year ago:

 

“His arm and Gose’s arm are the best in the organization. And his raw power is up there. Obviously there is Encarnacion and Bautista, but he’s close behind them as far as raw power. It’s just a matter of bringing it out more often and consistently.”

[ace3113]

I remember last year Buck or Tabler were saying, DM was saying Sierra had the most raw potential out of all Jays hitters. I don't think he meant in the minor leagues either.

Here is CM on him, one year ago:

 

“His arm and Gose’s arm are the best in the organization. And his raw power is up there. Obviously there is Encarnacion and Bautista, but he’s close behind them as far as raw power. It’s just a matter of bringing it out more often and consistently.”

 

I remember a commentator or scout writing if Sierra had any sort of baseball IQ or instincts that he has the tools to be an all-star. I can see that: 70arm, 60 raw power, 55 speed, 30 brain.

[RickyWalks]

He's so damn dumb though.

 

Same idiotic baserunning mistakes as last year.

[Caper]

I remember last year Buck or Tabler were saying, DM was saying Sierra had the most raw potential out of all Jays hitters. I don't think he meant in the minor leagues either.

Here is CM on him, one year ago:

 

“His arm and Gose’s arm are the best in the organization. And his raw power is up there. Obviously there is Encarnacion and Bautista, but he’s close behind them as far as raw power. It’s just a matter of bringing it out more often and consistently.”

 

 

There is some truth to that I think. Did you see how bad he looked when he tried to swing out of his shoes and tie the game? His head was all over the place. Then he took a great approach on 2 strikes and hit a double.... Maybe he has a lot left to correct in his approach.

[GD]

Discuss.

 

You little whore you stole my thread idea.

[Jimcanuck]

EE had his defensive problems and looked lost sometimes, players can get better

 

Sierra right now is poor defensively and on the bases... so not a 4th OF option. His bat is either good enough as a MLB starter or he is AAAA.

 

Too bad AA is all-in again in 2014, or could use the Thames approach and get a Delabar mid season

[BlueJayWay]

oh god

[G-Snarls]

EE had his defensive problems and looked lost sometimes, players can get better

 

Sierra right now is poor defensively and on the bases... so not a 4th OF option. His bat is either good enough as a MLB starter or he is AAAA.

 

Too bad AA is all-in again in 2014, or could use the Thames approach and get a Delabar mid season

 

I think Sierra will be best used at AAAA depth in case of injuries

 

Gose appears to be the best choice for 4th OF next year. Defense and speed are probably more important than pure hitting if your 4th OF can't have all three.

[Boxcar]

I think Sierra will be best used at AAAA depth in case of injuries

 

Gose appears to be the best choice for 4th OF next year. Defense and speed are probably more important than pure hitting if your 4th OF can't have all three.

 

Yeah, because there's no chance that Sierra could possibly improve and become a solid regular.

 

/s

[G-Snarls]

Yeah, because there's no chance that Sierra could possibly improve and become a solid regular.

 

/s

 

Yes, of course there is, you sarcastic _____. I never said he might not get better. But in a year (2104) where expectations are going to be high again, do you want to risk defensive and baserunning fiascos in April with this guy? We're all tired of that. He is probably best suited to spending most of next year in AAA and as backup to Rasmus/Bautista/Gose/Cabrera.

[z3r0s]

Yes, of course there is, you sarcastic _____.

 

We're not on the old forum snarls, you can say it... ass, or ****, or dick, or whatever _____ is

[G-Snarls]

We're not on the old forum snarls, you can say it... ass, or ****, or dick, or whatever _____ is

 

_prick_

 

[The Cats Ass]

Moises Sierra has .7 WAR already. .6 oWAR and .1 dWAR in 20 games. That's 5.7 WAR over a full season. He's not in Goins league but I guess 5.7 WAR would still be passiable.

[Olerud363]

Yes, of course there is, you sarcastic _____. I never said he might not get better. But in a year (2104) where expectations are going to be high again, do you want to risk defensive and baserunning fiascos in April with this guy? We're all tired of that. He is probably best suited to spending most of next year in AAA and as backup to Rasmus/Bautista/Gose/Cabrera.

 

He might get better, agreed, and I'm always one to point out the "ceilings" of guys are much higher then most people acknowledge.

 

A good rule of thumb is that the if all goes right, and the player improves that he will be able to match his minor league numbers in the majors.

 

For example .300 .400 .500 in aaa might project to .270 .350 .450 in the majors (depending on park). But then the guy might also improve and eventually hit his minor league line in the majors.

 

The problem with Sierra is his minor league numbers aren't good at all. Look at Eric Thames, Travis Snider (who didn't make it but still could I suppose), Nelson Cruz, Jose Bautista (who eventually came around late). Their minor league numbers are way better then Sierra's.

 

Sierra has a minor league slugging percentage barely above .400... he had a 17-100 or something bb/k in Buffalo. I don't know if there has ever been a successful major league player with those kind of numbers.

 

I'm always a glass half full when it comes to minor league players. If somehow everything went right for But if everything goes right for Sierra he's Mark Whiten light?? Hard to find a comparable because I don't think any players similar to Sierra have had significant mlb time... though I learn something everyday.

[G-Snarls]

He might get better, agreed, and I'm always one to point out the "ceilings" of guys are much higher then most people acknowledge.

 

A good rule of thumb is that the if all goes right, and the player improves that he will be able to match his minor league numbers in the majors.

 

For example .300 .400 .500 in aaa might project to .270 .350 .450 in the majors (depending on park). But then the guy might also improve and eventually hit his minor league line in the majors.

 

The problem with Sierra is his minor league numbers aren't good at all. Look at Eric Thames, Travis Snider (who didn't make it but still could I suppose), Nelson Cruz, Jose Bautista (who eventually came around late). Their minor league numbers are way better then Sierra's.

 

Sierra has a minor league slugging percentage barely above .400... he had a 17-100 or something bb/k in Buffalo. I don't know if there has ever been a successful major league player with those kind of numbers.

 

Right. Not holding my breath.

 

If I'm AA and Gibbons I don't want to gamble on Sierra next April when they're going to be very much under the microscope. If Melky is healthier and more mobile, he gets the LF job. And I think Gose is "safer" as your 4th outfielder because of his defense.

 

Starting pitching and defense is what killed this team in 2013, and everybody knows it. I can't see AA and Gibbons taking risks like playing Sierra early next season. If he is killing it in AAA (and I'd love to see that happen) then you might give him a shot later in the year.

[Boxcar]

Yes, of course there is, you sarcastic _____. I never said he might not get better. But in a year (2104) where expectations are going to be high again, do you want to risk defensive and baserunning fiascos in April with this guy? We're all tired of that. He is probably best suited to spending most of next year in AAA and as backup to Rasmus/Bautista/Gose/Cabrera.

 

Not sure if srs

[G-Snarls]

Not sure if srs

 

Serious about preferring to start next year with Cabrera/Rasmus/Bautista/Gose raher than Cabrera/Rasmus/Bautista/Sierra, yes. Unless, of course, something about Gose or Cabrera or Sierra looks so different in spring training that you feel the need to change the plan'

 

Serious about the name calling? No, you're all right

 

Serious about 2104? No, LOL. Obvious typo.

[G-Snarls]

A poll shall be made

[Boxcar]

Serious about preferring to start next year with Cabrera/Rasmus/Bautista/Gose raher than Cabrera/Rasmus/Bautista/Sierra, yes. Unless, of course, something about Gose or Cabrera or Sierra looks so different in spring training that you feel the need to change the plan'

 

Serious about the name calling? No, you're all right

 

Serious about 2104? No, LOL. Obvious typo.

 

That post was a mockery of theblujay. Thought it was obvious =S. Of course I don't want Sierra anywhere near this team.

[kgm1]

He might get better, agreed, and I'm always one to point out the "ceilings" of guys are much higher then most people acknowledge.

 

A good rule of thumb is that the if all goes right, and the player improves that he will be able to match his minor league numbers in the majors.

 

For example .300 .400 .500 in aaa might project to .270 .350 .450 in the majors (depending on park). But then the guy might also improve and eventually hit his minor league line in the majors.

 

The problem with Sierra is his minor league numbers aren't good at all. Look at Eric Thames, Travis Snider (who didn't make it but still could I suppose), Nelson Cruz, Jose Bautista (who eventually came around late). Their minor league numbers are way better then Sierra's.

 

Sierra has a minor league slugging percentage barely above .400... he had a 17-100 or something bb/k in Buffalo. I don't know if there has ever been a successful major league player with those kind of numbers.

 

I'm always a glass half full when it comes to minor league players. If somehow everything went right for But if everything goes right for Sierra he's Mark Whiten light?? Hard to find a comparable because I don't think any players similar to Sierra have had significant mlb time... though I learn something everyday.

 

Pretty much covers it .I would add that his lack of fundimental baseball skills makes it even more unlikely he even becomes an mlb bench player

[G-Snarls]

That post was a mockery of theblujay. Thought it was obvious =S. Of course I don't want Sierra anywhere near this team.

 

Ahh. Now I get it.

[G-Snarls]

Lol.....fatcow's dream.

 

That, and Goins becoming Yunel Escobar