Brett Lawrie

[lilmonkee]

as an athlete i understand losing is part of the game. as a fan i understand that watching ur team lose is part of the package. what i dont understand is having to watch a grown man throw a fit time and time again. can we say anger management? he is a canadian athlete on the only canadian team in baseball and im pretty sure he is supposed to be setting an example for future baseballers. Brett Lawrie needs an attitude adjustment. i have never seen a more disgusting display of poor sportsmanship then i do when i watch him freaking out after he strikes out or makes a bad play. punching the wall and smashing ur bat or having a hissy fit after a call doesnt go ur way is not what i consider to be PROFESSIONAL. the jays were playing better when he wasnt in the line up. sit his butt on the bench........how disapointing!!!

[Jays]

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[jays4life19]

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haha

[KSaw]

He's Canadian. Sorry to break it to everyone but there's a big difference between Canadian and American baseball players growing up. The US kids shut their mouths and play. The Canadian kids cry about everything, bitch at umpires like mad and do idiotic things like steal when up 10 runs. I'm speaking from experience and sure, there are exceptions but many Canadian ball players have a hockey player mentality.

[baseballsss]

He's Canadian. Sorry to break it to everyone but there's a big difference between Canadian and American baseball players growing up. The US kids shut their mouths and play. The Canadian kids cry about everything, bitch at umpires like mad and do idiotic things like steal when up 10 runs. I'm speaking from experience and sure, there are exceptions but many Canadian ball players have a hockey player mentality.

 

does/did votto, walker and morneau cry all the time?

[Dr. Dinger]

Brett Lawrie's s***** attitude is the only reason we had an opportunity to acquire him. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Arkadium]

He's Canadian. Sorry to break it to everyone but there's a big difference between Canadian and American baseball players growing up. The US kids shut their mouths and play. The Canadian kids cry about everything, bitch at umpires like mad and do idiotic things like steal when up 10 runs. I'm speaking from experience and sure, there are exceptions but many Canadian ball players have a hockey player mentality.

 

This post sucks hard.

[Angrioter]

Brett Lawrie's s***** attitude is the only reason we had an opportunity to acquire him. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

Lawrie, Yunel, Rasmus, Morrow (disease), Jeffress (weed) and Delabar (elbow)

[ace3113]

I missed the game, can someone please explain what happened?

[AdamGreenwood]

Agreed. Russel Martin is another embarassment.

 

Even playing recreational fastball, explaining to guys that you shouldn't steal bases when you're up by fifteen runs is lost on these guys.

Running up the score and personal stats, and telling anyone who has a problem with it to F off, seems to be the Canadian way.

[KSaw]

does/did votto, walker and morneau cry all the time?

 

Don't know Morneau but Votto used to get thrown out of games regularly. Every pitch near the inner half was inside to him and he was a big baby. He was a catcher for a while-- baby while catching too. Now to be fair, I don't mean everyone is like this but it is too many of the Canadian players.

[Stangstag]

Running up the score and personal stats, and telling anyone who has a problem with it to F off, seems to be the Canadian way.

 

Ok...

[GNick]

Brett Lawrie is the most exciting thing about this team. When he was hitting .190 everyone was complaining that he was a bust. Now that he's raised his average 60 points, all we hear is about his attitude. I have no problem at all with his attitude.

 

He is a competitor and likes to win. He is the first one cheering for his team from the dugout and the first one out to celebrate a win. He has amazing potential to be one of the greats of the game, so let go of all this attitude crap. It's getting tiresome.

I don't think anybody was complaining about his attitude....he just needed to tone it down a little. Over aggressive will lead to injuries

[John_Havok]

I don't think anybody was complaining about his attitude....he just needed to tone it down a little. Over aggressive will lead to injuries

 

I think he's been playing with a much more apparent "restrained intensity" lately. Didn't fly around like a retard after his walk off hit, isn't trying to rip people's arms off with high fives... But still extremely high effort

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

Brett Lawrie is the most exciting thing about this team. When he was hitting .190 everyone was complaining that he was a bust. Now that he's raised his average 60 points, all we hear is about his attitude. I have no problem at all with his attitude.

 

He is a competitor and likes to win. He is the first one cheering for his team from the dugout and the first one out to celebrate a win. He has amazing potential to be one of the greats of the game, so let go of all this attitude crap. It's getting tiresome.

 

He's easily their best "prospect" at this point, the true upside has yet to be established. You'd think that a forum that tends to overemphasize potential would be raving about this guy ( he brings a little of everything : defence, power, contact, speed ). I guess familiarity breeds contempt, if he were on any other team there would be guys recommending trades to get him.

 

I expect 2014 will be his breakout year. Main hurdle is staying healthy, he needs to learn some self preservation.

[GD]

Lawrie is not a prospect, what the hell are you on?

 

I'm assuming he quoted "prospect" for that reason, I guess he doesn't know he can just say good young player, but oh well

[Frag]

Lawrie's month-by-month progression in wRC+:

 

64, 78, 96, 191

 

Also, if you think Lawrie has quite the attitude problem, it's a good thing you weren't a Tigers fan in the early 20th Century. Can't imagine how many threads would be made about Ty Cobb's attitude.

[GD]

Lawrie's month-by-month progression in wRC+:

 

64, 78, 96, 191

 

Lawrie's month-by-month progression in BABIP:

 

.257, .231, .195, .442

 

.349 BABIP in the second half, with a 157 wRC+ and .404 wOBA, very similar to the Lawrie we saw in 2011, although with many fewer strikeouts and a touch fewer walks. I hope he doesn't come crashing down. Although a .349 BABIP alright, he's obviously due for regression but it may not be major. He put up BABIPs over .310 the past few years..

 

I really hope he can perform, because we're kinda screwed for the future if he can't lol.

[John_Havok]

Lawrie's month-by-month progression in BABIP:

 

.257, .231, .195, .442

 

.349 BABIP in the second half, with a 157 wRC+ and .404 wOBA, very similar to the Lawrie we saw in 2011, although with many fewer strikeouts and a touch fewer walks. I hope he doesn't come crashing down. Although a .349 BABIP alright, he's obviously due for regression but it may not be major. He put up BABIPs over .310 the past few years..

 

I really hope he can perform, because we're kinda screwed for the future if he can't lol.

 

I think his peak will likely be in the .340 wOBA range with plus defense. His K rate is probably going to be anywhere from 15-20%, walk rate around 7% though I'd love to see that come up to around 10% or so. I don't think he'll ever be a 30 HR threat, probably 20 HR with 35+ doubles and possible 20 SB if he can refine that skill and get better jumps. All in all he could probably put up 6-7ish WAR at his peak in his best years if he really takes off, though I expect more of a 4.5-5 to be closer to what he'll attain.

[leaffie]

My word. Lawrie has been hitting on all cylinders since he is finally healthy. I haven't seen any of what the OP is talking about.

 

It seems that fans of this team are never happy. If they show some attitude and swagger, they don't want that. If they show nothing, just sitting in the dugout, they don't want that either.

 

Somewhere along the'line, the internet has turned baseball fans into experts on everything, who are never happy and do nothing but criticize.

 

Give me some more Brett Lawries on this team, and they wouldn't be in last place.

[oakville69]

I am happy that Lawrie is playing better. I hope AA keeps him at 3B in 2014. I didn't like the switch to 2B earlier this season.

[o2cui2i]

Lawrie's month-by-month progression in wRC+:

 

64, 78, 96, 191

 

Also, if you think Lawrie has quite the attitude problem, it's a good thing you weren't a Tigers fan in the early 20th Century. Can't imagine how many threads would be made about Ty Cobb's attitude.

 

Cobb was a colossal prick, but one amazing baseball player who loved the game more than almost any player who plays today. only a handful of players have ever played with that kind of passion.

[GD]

That would be insane if he could play it well.

[Arkadium]

Lawrie could see some time at SS apparently with Reyes out. That could be interesting.

 

If by interesting you mean stupid, then yes, it would be pretty stupid.

[Errorcebia]

does/did votto, walker and morneau cry all the time?

 

I think the point is that if they weren't actually good players, they would be bitching and moaning all the time. It's hard to disagree with that.

[KSaw]

Cobb was a colossal prick, but one amazing baseball player who loved the game more than almost any player who plays today. only a handful of players have ever played with that kind of passion.

 

Keep in mind that Cobb does have the worst fielding percentage of any outfielder in the history of Major League Baseball. And while fielding percentage is flawed-- worst still means pretty darned awful! Best defensive outfielder (Fielding Percentage)-- Pete Rose. I bet that both of those facts shock many. Cobb had no arm too btw.

[Errorcebia]

Dempster's shenanigans last night only strengthen this argument.

[G-Snarls]

We certainly could have used some of this this performance back in April.

 

The good news is we can see Lawrie still has all-star potential.