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Official wasted starts counter:

 

Wang = 5

Ortiz = 4

Jenkins = 3

Romero = 2

Nolin =1

Laffey = 1

 

16 in 83 games, for 19% of the schedule. Not bad.

 

Holy s*** dude, well what would you do given the situation they were in? Trade a prospect for Joe Saunders or something? It's really easy to criticize but I don't see you offering up better scenarios.

 

Jenkins did just fine and Romero is supposed to be an established SP so take those 5 starts off.

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He's making a statement about the depth AA has assembled. There aren't any other in-house solutions and that's the problem - you don't see other teams running out guys like Ortiz or Redmond.

 

Yes you do

 

Boston, Yankees, Orioles have been rolling out some weak links this year

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Which is exactly what Beeston and AA stated was the team philosophy. So why the change in direction ?? The owner pushed for this move !!! I firmly believe this ! I believe AA was smart enough to know this wasn't the year .

 

Agreed that this is the cause of most knowledgeable fans . But we are in a minority . MOST fans would rather AA trade away what little we have on the farm for a rental and then when it didn't work go away and use the excuse of non competitiveness as to why . Frustrating as it is I see no reason to call for AA,s head , Beeston,s maybe !

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Wow. Nobody saw this move coming.

 

Where is He going to go that would give him a better shot at getting back . Jays rotation is a mess

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Agreed that this is the cause of most knowledgeable fans . But we are in a minority . MOST fans would rather AA trade away what little we have on the farm for a rental and then when it didn't work go away and use the excuse of non competitiveness as to why . Frustrating as it is I see no reason to call for AA,s head , Beeston,s maybe !

 

For me its more of a case of what I expect to happen than what I want to see happen. AA will deal off more prospects and give this all he can to get this team into the post season this year or next, otherwise he knows his job will be lost.

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Yeah, I can buy that - there is definitely a compelling case to be made that AA was instructed from above. I'm really just fed up with the entire management team though. I want everyone gone. Start with Beest and work your way down. Keep Gibby - he's a boss.

 

If ownership did dictate AA to make these bold moves, you still want AA gone?

AA has made some very solid moves in the past...

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It's odd usually perception is that teams that bring up their prospects are non contending, Jays fans seem to be clamoring for Stroman to keep that slight hope alive. I really don't care about his service time or anything else at this point, I'd love to see him up here as a fan. I think expectations will be that of a saviour which I don't think will happen.
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Well, the creator of said meme is bad, and (s)he should feel bad.

 

The "Aliens guy" meme should be one word only!

 

And frankly, that picture with the word "Wang" under it, when he's got his hands held out like that could have been pretty funny.

 

Yeah... I guess the "You suck Wang" seemed more appropriate because of how atrocious his last 2 starts were

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Wang's DFAing is no surprise after his last start.

 

The guy's so inconsistent, he's either excellent (in 2 starts) or awfaul (in 3 other starts).

 

I blame yesterday's loss on Gibby, he shoud've pulled Wang quickly after Wang gave up back to back hits starting 2nd inning. (And after what happened in Boston where Wang gave up 7 runs in the 2nd inning).

 

Still I find many poster's hating on Wang unfair. He's what he's, we took a chance on him and it did not work (well he pitched excellent in 2 starts out of 5).

 

If you want to blame, blame our GM to have him to start for us, and blame our manager to leave him too long.

 

Now hope we can find a better option to replace him.

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Joel Maddon would Have pulled him after the double

 

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LOL..madden.. you guys still drop to your knees

for this guy. He'll end up being one of the many

who have never won a championship.

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" and yes it pisses me off that Romero self destructed and then the Jays mishandled it and really screwed him up "

 

WTF is this ?? OMG there's the "jays screwed him up " again .

 

What a F___ing freak show this collection of posters

most of you are.. pointing fingers is the predominate theme,

next is second guessing and then it's resort to belligerency.

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I'm glad Wang accepted the assignment. I actually think most of his issues are pitch selection (overusing the sinker) more than anything else. He seems to have it in his head that it's all he should throw, but he doesn't throw mid 90's any more and can't get away with it.
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" and yes it pisses me off that Romero self destructed and then the Jays mishandled it and really screwed him up "

 

WTF is this ?? OMG there's the "jays screwed him up " again .

 

What a F___ing freak show this collection of posters

most of you are.. pointing fingers is the predominate theme,

next is second guessing and then it's resort to belligerency.

 

Shut the f*** up already.

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