Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Damn the Raptors keep winning, and in this conference.. it's almost impossible to come last
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 George Costanza: To think I’d fail at failing. Jerry Seinfeld: Oh come on. George Costanza: I can’t do anything wrong. Jerry Seinfeld: Nonsense. You do everything wrong. George Costanza: You think so? Jerry Seinfeld: Absolutely. I have no confidence in you. George Costanza: Well, I guess I’ll have to pick myself up, dust myself up, and throw myself right back down again! Jerry Seinfeld: That’s the spirit! You suck.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Yup the tank is dead. Might as well just hope they can get hot now and do some damage in the playoffs. ARGH As long as they don't play a team like Miami or Indiana, they could likely squeeze past the first or second round, especially with home court advantage. I can't believe I'm saying this lol. I think Brooklyn is too good of a team to be this bad; the Knicks I could understand. It's fun to see the Raptors play well, though at the same time it's painful because next year's draft class is out of this world.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 As long as they don't play a team like Miami or Indiana, they could likely squeeze past the first or second round, especially with home court advantage. I can't believe I'm saying this lol. I think Brooklyn is too good of a team to be this bad; the Knicks I could understand. It's fun to see the Raptors play well, though at the same time it's painful because next year's draft class is out of this world. They're not getting to the conference finals lol.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I really hope that Ujiri doesn't do any win now moves at the trade deadline. This team in any other year is at best, an eighth seed.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 As long as they don't play a team like Miami or Indiana, they could likely squeeze past the first or second round, especially with home court advantage. I can't believe I'm saying this lol. I think Brooklyn is too good of a team to be this bad; the Knicks I could understand. It's fun to see the Raptors play well, though at the same time it's painful because next year's draft class is out of this world. The unfortunate truth is that Miami or Indiana will be waiting in the second round no matter who they play. Just the way the bracket works.
theblujay Verified Member Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Ross has been amazing since he filled in for Gay in the starting lineup. His D on PG last night was excellent. JV has been doing much better on offense too. He's starting to show a few nice post moves to go with that running hook.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 So far so good for the Raps tonight.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Coach of the month for Dwane Casey, cool.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Ross, DD, and Lowry are on fire.... Amir having a great night too... This is quite entertaining
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I like DeRozan. Shooting % could be better but he can drive effectively and is a decent passer. Just cannot be a primary option.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Patrick Patterson! Wtf lol This might be one of the best trades in franchise history. This guy looks like Amir 2.0
Caper Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 This is insane to watch. Raps are just putting these games away.... so weird to watch.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 This is insane to watch. Raps are just putting these games away.... so weird to watch. Watching this gives me hope for our Bluejays.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I don't follow the NBA close enough to know, is there a team out there they can trade with too make an addition for a playoff run? I'm not thinking these Raps are suddenly elite by any stretch, but really, a Legit PF that could push Amir to the bench whilst trading Landry Fields or Steve Novak or both would seem to be a good idea.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I don't think there's any question that Amir is a legit starting PF and with Patterson playing so well, there's not much of a need. I'm really not sure what they need, but there will be a partner if we want to pay up. Novak and Fields have extreme negative value, I'm not sure we'd have much luck moving them.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I don't follow the NBA close enough to know, is there a team out there they can trade with too make an addition for a playoff run? I'm not thinking these Raps are suddenly elite by any stretch, but really, a Legit PF that could push Amir to the bench whilst trading Landry Fields or Steve Novak or both would seem to be a good idea. Amir Johnson's the second best PF in the East
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Amir Johnson's the second best PF in the East That's not exactly impressive when all the premier power forwards are in the west. Again, I don't profess to be an expert on the NBA but what other position would they target an upgrade? JV, Lowry and DeRozan aren't going anywhere, that leaves Ross and Amir.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 That's not exactly impressive when all the premier power forwards are in the west. Again, I don't profess to be an expert on the NBA but what other position would they target an upgrade? JV, Lowry and DeRozan aren't going anywhere, that leaves Ross and Amir. SF. Put Ross on the bench and get another 2 way player who can shoot the ball well to stick next to DeRozan. Salmons+ our pick should net someone decent with all the teams in the East tanking. Thad Young/Aaron Afalio (sp)
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 That's not exactly impressive when all the premier power forwards are in the west. Again, I don't profess to be an expert on the NBA but what other position would they target an upgrade? JV, Lowry and DeRozan aren't going anywhere, that leaves Ross and Amir. You're criminally underrating Amir just like all the other casual fans in the nba. Sure he doesn't fill up the the stat sheet like the other star pf's but he's super efficient and an elite defensive player according to the metrics. He's a top 10 pf in the league, Derozan isn't even in the tsame league as him in terms of production. Honestly, I'd trade Derozan and Lowry before Amir. Lowry because he's an expiring, derozan because he's an inefficient chucker.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 You're criminally underrating Amir just like all the other casual fans in the nba. Sure he doesn't fill up the the stat sheet like the other star pf's but he's super efficient and an elite defensive player according to the metrics. He's a top 10 pf in the league, Derozan isn't even in the tsame league as him in terms of production. Honestly, I'd trade Derozan and Lowry before Amir. Lowry because he's an expiring, derozan because he's an inefficient chucker. I get trading Lowry, but that wouldn't be improving the team for a playoff run. I think that's where the Raps are going this year since tank Nation is obviously dead.
letsgobjs Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 You're criminally underrating Amir just like all the other casual fans in the nba. Sure he doesn't fill up the the stat sheet like the other star pf's but he's super efficient and an elite defensive player according to the metrics. He's a top 10 pf in the league, Derozan isn't even in the tsame league as him in terms of production. Honestly, I'd trade Derozan and Lowry before Amir. Lowry because he's an expiring, derozan because he's an inefficient chucker. Definitely have to agree with that. I've mentioned that it's probably in the team's best interest to trade derozan to try to get a pick. He doesn't really add much to the team and he's likely at his peak in terms of value.
Caper Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I don't follow the NBA close enough to know, is there a team out there they can trade with too make an addition for a playoff run? I'm not thinking these Raps are suddenly elite by any stretch, but really, a Legit PF that could push Amir to the bench whilst trading Landry Fields or Steve Novak or both would seem to be a good idea. Yeah.... I'm all for trading Steve Novak and Landry Fields for a legit PF. .... Just like I'm in favor of trading Ricky Romero and Maicer Izturis for a legit number 2 starter.
Caper Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 You're criminally underrating Amir just like all the other casual fans in the nba. Sure he doesn't fill up the the stat sheet like the other star pf's but he's super efficient and an elite defensive player according to the metrics. He's a top 10 pf in the league, Derozan isn't even in the tsame league as him in terms of production. Honestly, I'd trade Derozan and Lowry before Amir. Lowry because he's an expiring, derozan because he's an inefficient chucker. Yeah... Amir is one of those seriously sneaky awesome players. Ross has been super impressive as well. It's amazing how good the defense has been.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 SF. Put Ross on the bench and get another 2 way player who can shoot the ball well to stick next to DeRozan. Salmons+ our pick should net someone decent with all the teams in the East tanking. Thad Young/Aaron Afalio (sp) Obviously an upgrade would help, but I think Salmons is a nice complement to Ross, vetrin presentz to go with solid defense and ball handling. If I'm Ujiri, I stand pat for now. There's no obvious holes and things are clicking. See if there is a move to be made with Fields, Novak, or Hayes, that's about it. Maybe he can dump one for an expiring or something.
theblujay Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Heat and Pacers on the road next. 1/2 would be huge
Caper Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 People keep talking about tanking.... like I was listening to this podcast today. http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2014/01/02/talking-raptors-rapcast-ep-10-belated-happy-new-year/ People talk about tanking like it's an easy option with a guaranteed outcome. It's damn near impossible to tank that bad, in order secure a top 5 of the draft.... especially how easy the schedule is getting after the next couple of games.
theblujay Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Obviously an upgrade would help, but I think Salmons is a nice complement to Ross, vetrin presentz to go with solid defense and ball handling. If I'm Ujiri, I stand pat for now. There's no obvious holes and things are clicking. See if there is a move to be made with Fields, Novak, or Hayes, that's about it. Maybe he can dump one for an expiring or something. I think he should try to get a defense first big to replace Hayes
Caper Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I challenge anyone to try to make it through 5 minutes of this horsehit podcast. http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2014/...appy-new-year/
letsgobjs Verified Member Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 I don't know how many of you watch it, but there's this show Open Gym that airs on NBA TV that gives an inside look at the Raptors. This one in particular gives you an interesting look at players' reactions after the Rudy Gay trade. The players find out about the trade at around the 10 minute mark of the video.
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