admin Site Manager Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Can someone provide me a list of the Jays top 50 prospects? Doesn't have to be in order, I just want to make sure I have atleast the top 30, and an extra 10-20 names as people will have different opinions on rankings #20-#30. Very important not to miss anyone important. This includes recent draftees, even if they haven't been signed yet. Thank you. Would be great if I could get it tonight if possible. But again, can't forget anyone. ** Edit, actually I'm going to bed. Hopefully we can get this done early tomorrow. Hope a few people can chime in to make sure we don't forget anyone. Thanks.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Probably best to use Sickels list which has 38 names. I can't find the forum list for 2013. Can add some 2013 draftees as well. This list is current as of January 15, 2013 1) Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Grade B+: Borderline A-: Stuff is even better than Syndergaard's, three plus pitches, but needs to sharpen his control. Noah has a better balance of stuff and command than Aaron at this point, but they are very close. 2) Roberto Osuna, RHP, Grade B+: I like his delivery, I like his stuff, his control isn't bad, and he performed well out of the gate. Not classically projectable due to mature body at age 18, but he already has enough stuff to succeed if the command is there. 3) Marcus Stroman, RHP, Grade B: You have to love the stuff, 5-9 size be damned, and he knows how to use it. Will he start or relieve? He could advance very quickly in the bullpen. Don't forget he has to finish his suspension over stimulant use. 4) Sean Nolin, LHP, Grade B: I don't know why this guy doesn't get more attention. He's big (6-5, 235), has a solid fastball, good curve, change coming along, throws strikes, great performance record. Just needs to stay healthy. 5) D.J. Davis, OF, Grade B-: 80-speed and has some power, too. Will have to see how his approach develops, if his on-base skills are sufficient for a leadoff man. His speed certainly will be. Probably a five-year development project. 6) Daniel Norris, LHP, Grade B-: Despite his dismal statistical performance, scouting reports remain pretty positive, pointing to plus fastball, changeup. Breaking stuff is erratic, mechanics give him trouble and hamper his command. His FIP was 3.81, so he wasn't as bad as the 8.44 ERA suggests, but he's got work to do. 7) Matt Smoral, LHP, Grade B-: Big lefty from the 2012 draft, possibly a steal in the supplemental round though we haven't seen him pitch yet due to the broken foot that knocked his stock down. Power southpaw with impressive fastball and slider potential. 8) A.J. Jimenez, C, Grade C+: Recovering from Tommy John. Assuming that goes well, he's a solid defender with a decent bat, though he doesn't have D'Arnaud's power. 9) Santiago Nessy, C, Grade C+: I buy into his defensive skills and he's got plenty of power, but strike zone judgment is problematic. High ceiling, if he adapts well to A-ball his grade will move up quickly. Good catching depth in the system. 10) John Stilson, RHP, Grade C+: His stuff can be electric, but command is wobbly and cross-body mechanics make me cringe. I think he fits best in relief. 11) Alberto Tirado, RHP, Grade C+: Consistently good reviews for this rookie ball right-hander, who pitched better than guys with larger bonuses. Live arm, up to 94-95 MPH, and has a mix of secondary pitches to work with. 12) Chase DeJong, RHP, Grade C+: Second-round pick from California high school opened his career with 12 excellent innings in rookie ball. Superior command, doesn't have overwhelming velocity but has a better feel than some of the other arms in this range. 13) Christian Lopes, 2B, Grade C+: Solid bat with more pop than most middle infielders, polished approach. Needs more adaptation time at second base but should be at least adequate with the glove. 14) Adonys Cardona, RHP, Grade C+: High ceiling arm with great physical potential, but still struggling with secondary pitches, command, and consistency. Turns 19 next month, he's got time. 15) Kevin Pillar, OF, Grade C+: Hit .328/.378/.439 with 59 steals despite a mediocre toolset. Great instincts for the game. If you could stick his head on Jake Marisnick's body, you'd have a superstar. Pillar is probably a fourth outfielder but an interesting player. 16) Mitch Nay, 3B, Grade C+: Nay has tremendous raw power but reports on his other skills, including his defense, are mixed and he didn't play in pro ball due to injury. Could rank much higher next year. 17) Tyler Gonzales, RHP, Grade C+: Killer fastball/slider combination, but high-effort mechanics likely make him a reliever as he moves up. Another strong rookie ball arm. It will be interesting to see if the Jays handle him as judiciously as they've done with other high school guys. 18) Franklin Barreto, SS, Grade C+: Big bonus shortstop from Venezuela with speed, hitting skills. Might move to outfield but many experts considered him the top non-Cuban talent in the international market. A LONG way off at age 16, but he has a good track record in international competition which (in theory) should mean scouts have a good read on him. 19) Jeremy Gabryszwski, RHP, Grade C+: 2.35 ERA with 22/4 K/BB in 46 innings for Bluefield in the Appalachian League. Strike-throwing ability stands out and he picks up a good share of ground balls, but I'd like to see a higher strikeout rate as his breaking ball develops. 20) Andy Burns, INF, Grade C: Potential sleeper prospect hit just .248 in Low-A, but he's got power, speed, some defensive ability, and decent overall tools, making him someone to watch in a system that is suddenly looking thinner. OTHERS: Anthony Alford, OF; Jacob Anderson, OF; Javier Avedano RHP; Danny Barnes, RHP; Ryan Borucki, LHP; Andy Burns, INF; Taylor Cole, RHP; Matthew Dean, 3B; Yeyfry Del Rosario, RHP; Sam Dyson, RHP; Jeremy Gabryszwski, RHP; Ryan Goins, INF; Chris Hawkins, OF; Chad Jenkins, RHP; Jairo Labourt, LHP; Deck McGuire, RHP; Griffin Murphy, LHP; Dalton Pompey, OF; Dwight Smith, OF.
admin Site Manager Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 Thanks. Anyone else that would have jumped up this year that is outside the list? And who would you include from this years draft?
torontofan Verified Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 For the later prospects could throw around Dawel Lugo & Jesus Tinoco. Both very young players.
ace3113 Verified Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 This is my personal list. Not sure if you wanted scouting reports. Let me know if you do. 1. Aaron Sanchez, RHP 2. Roberto Osuna, RHP 3. Marcus Stroman, RHP 4. Daniel Norris, LHP 5. Phil Bickford, RHP 6. Alberto Tirado, RHP 7. A.J. Jimenez, C 8. Sean Nolin, LHP 9. Adonys Cardona 10. Andy Burns, 3B 11. Mitch Nay, 3B 12. Anthony Alford, OF 13. Franklin Barreto, SS 14. D.J. Davis 15. Matt Smoral, LHP 16. John Stilson RHP 17.Kevin Pillar, OF 18. Chase Dejong, RHP 19. Michael Crouse, OF 20. Dwight Smith Jr. OF 21. Dawel Lugo, SS 22. Jairo Labourt, LHP 23. Richard Urena, SS 24. Ryan Borucki, LHP 25. Clinton Hollon, RHP 26. Oscar Cabrera, LHP 27. Christian Lopes 2B 28. Dalton Pompey, OF 29. Gustavo Pierre, 3B 30. Santiago Nessy C 31. Rolando Segovia, SS/2B 32. Deck McGuire, RHP; G 33. Danny Barnes, RHP 34. Jeremy Gabryszwski, RHP 36. Zak Wasilewski LHP 37. Tyler Gonzales RHP 38. Justin Jackson, RHP 39. Justin Atkinson, 1B 40. Tom Robson, RHP 41. Jesus Gonzalez 42. Yeyfry Del Rosario, RHP 43. Chris Hawkins, OF; 44. Griffin Murphy, LHP 45. Deiferson Barreto, 2B 46. Matthew Dean, 3B 47. Jacob Anderson, OF 48. Willy Dupont, 2B 49. Nathan Desouza, OF 50. Evan Crawford, LHP Others: Ronniel Demorizzi, 3B Manuel Cordova, RHP Osman Gutierrez, RHP Andres De Aza, OF Juan Tejada, OF Jesus Tinoco, RHP Francisco Rios, RHP Miguel Castro, RHP Juliandry Higuerra, LHP
Caper Verified Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Geeze you forgot Jim Negrych. Both D-Mac and Ortiz have already graduated so... you can't use them.
Caper Verified Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 This is my personal list. Not sure if you wanted scouting reports. Let me know if you do. 1. Aaron Sanchez, RHP 2. Roberto Osuna, RHP 3. Marcus Stroman, RHP 4. Daniel Norris, LHP 5. Phil Bickford, RHP 6. Alberto Tirado, RHP 7. A.J. Jimenez, C 8. Sean Nolin, LHP 9. Adonys Cardona 10. Andy Burns, 3B 11. Mitch Nay, 3B 12. Anthony Alford, OF 13. Franklin Barreto, SS 14. D.J. Davis 15. Matt Smoral, LHP 16. John Stilson RHP 17.Kevin Pillar, OF 18. Chase Dejong, RHP 19. Michael Crouse, OF 20. Dwight Smith Jr. OF 21. Dawel Lugo, SS 22. Jairo Labourt, LHP 23. Richard Urena, SS 24. Ryan Borucki, LHP 25. Clinton Hollon, RHP 26. Oscar Cabrera, LHP 27. Christian Lopes 2B 28. Dalton Pompey, OF 29. Gustavo Pierre, 3B 30. Santiago Nessy C 31. Rolando Segovia, SS/2B 32. Deck McGuire, RHP; G 33. Danny Barnes, RHP 34. Jeremy Gabryszwski, RHP 36. Zak Wasilewski LHP 37. Tyler Gonzales RHP 38. Justin Jackson, RHP 39. Justin Atkinson, 1B 40. Tom Robson, RHP 41. Jesus Gonzalez 42. Yeyfry Del Rosario, RHP 43. Chris Hawkins, OF; 44. Griffin Murphy, LHP 45. Deiferson Barreto, 2B 46. Matthew Dean, 3B 47. Jacob Anderson, OF 48. Willy Dupont, 2B 49. Nathan Desouza, OF 50. Evan Crawford, LHP Others: Ronniel Demorizzi, 3B Manuel Cordova, RHP Osman Gutierrez, RHP Andres De Aza, OF Juan Tejada, OF Jesus Tinoco, RHP Francisco Rios, RHP Miguel Castro, RHP Juliandry Higuerra, LHP Ace. If you had to pick a player in that 20-50 range (including the others) to jump out of that pack and establish himself as a MLB player who would it be?
Caper Verified Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 20) Andy Burns, INF, Grade C: Potential sleeper prospect hit just .248 in Low-A, but he's got power, speed, some defensive ability, and decent overall tools, making him someone to watch in a system that is suddenly looking thinner. If he was to regrade Andy Burns, what would you suspect it would be.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Wtf happened to Adonys Cardona? Wasn't he pretty highly touted?
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Wtf happened to Adonys Cardona? Wasn't he pretty highly touted? Cardona touched 99Mph last week
GD Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 My quick, "oh s*** I'm about to be late for school why did I even do this" list 1.) Aaron Sanchez 2.) Roberto Osuna 3.) Marcus Stroman 4.) Phil Bickford 5.) A.J. Jimenez 6.) Daniel Norris 7.) Matt Smoral 8.) D.J. Davis 9.) Sean Nolin 10.) Alberto Tirado 11.) Mitch Nay 12.) Franklin Barreto 13.) Anthony Alford 14.) Dawel Lugo 15.) Andy Burns 16.) Adonys Cardona 17.) Kevin Pillar 18.) John Stilson 19.) Chase DeJong 20.) Dalton Pompey 21.) Deck McGuire 22.) Dwight Smith Jr. 23.) Jacob Anderson 24.) Clinton Hollon 25.) Christian Lopes 26.) Santiago Nessy 27.) Jeremy Gabryszwski 28.) Tom Robson 29.) Tyler Gonzales 30.) Danny Barnes 31.) Zak Wasilewski 32.) Yeyfry Del Rosario 33.) Chris Hawkins 34.) Matthew Dean 35.) Griffin Murphy 36.) Seth Conner 37.) Nick Baligod 38.) Justin Jackson 39.) Nathan Desouza 40.) Gustavo Pierre 41.) Michael Crouse 42.) Marcus Knecht 43.) Ryan Borucki 44.) Richard Urena 45.) Javier Avedando 46.) Jairo Lambourt 47.) Richard Urena 48.) Brendan Kalfus 49.) Michael De La Cruz 50.) Jesus Gonzalez
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Wtf happened to Adonys Cardona? Wasn't he pretty highly touted? He struck guys out but had trouble making it out of the GCL. IMO he's been poorly handled.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 My half-assed list: 1 Aaron Sanchez 2 Marcus Stroman 3 Roberto Osuna 4 Christian Lopes 5 Matt Smoral 6 D.J. Davis 7 A.J. Jimenez 3 Phil Bickford 8 Daniel Norris 9 Dwight Smith Jr. 10 Sean Nolin 11 Matt Dean 12 Anthony Alford 13 Jeremy Gabryszwski 14 Andy Burns 15 Jon Stilson 16 Dalton Pompey 17 Alberto Tirado 18 Jon Berti 19 Santiago Nessy 20 Kevin Pilar 21 Chase DeJong 22 Mitch Nay 23 Jacob Anderson 24 Adonys Cardona 25 Jorge Vega Rosado 26 Tyler Gonzales 27 Jairo Labourt 28 Franklin Barreto 29 Richard Urena 30 Manuel Cordova
admin Site Manager Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 Thanks all, I created the midseason top prospect thread. Please go submit yours!
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