GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 8, 2013 Posted May 8, 2013 After Romero's start tonight, I got the idea of this thread. What's the biggest case of falling off the map you can remember? My case is Scott Kazmir. 5.1 WAR the next season, 2.0 the next, 2.3, and then -1.1. Ouch. He got released, too.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Ankiel is still the modern day poster child. Kazmir had injury problems. Romero's knees are f***ed but this is the classic case of the Yips
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 There's always Andruw Jones. Vernon Wells has him beat by a mile
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 I agree with ecjf. Kazmir dealt with a variety of injuries.. This is Ankiel territory for RR. Guaranteed contracts are a beautiful thing.. For guys like RR anyway
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 wait who fell fastest the hardest? Wells or Lind?
Metallijay Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Baseball needs to get rid of guaranteed contracts.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Author Posted May 9, 2013 wait who fell fastest the hardest? Wells or Lind? Probably Wells.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 I dont know. Lind in music would be like a one hit wonder.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Mark Prior. 7.5 WAR in 2003 followed by 2.7, 2.8 and never seen again
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Author Posted May 9, 2013 Mark Prior. 7.5 WAR in 2003 followed by 2.7, 2.8 and never seen again Damn, good one.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Mark Prior. 7.5 WAR in 2003 followed by 2.7, 2.8 and never seen again don't think injuries should count in this thread
Chappy Community Moderator Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Nobody's mentioned Dontrelle Willis?? 2005: 22-10, 2.63 ERA in 236.1 IP, after winning ROY in 2003. Two years later he's finished at age 25. Nice find, that was a truly epic fall.
Dr Negative Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Romero's problem is that he got fat.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Romero's problem is that he got fat. I blame his ex.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 How about Darryl Kile? He did more that just fall off the map unfortunately.
Arkadium Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Mark Prior. 7.5 WAR in 2003 followed by 2.7, 2.8 and never seen again We may just see Mark Prior called up this year if circumstances go his way... that would be something, since he hasn't played in the majors since 2006.
Arkadium Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Nobody's mentioned Dontrelle Willis?? 2005: 22-10, 2.63 ERA in 236.1 IP, after winning ROY in 2003. Two years later he's finished at age 25. WOW 13.1 BB/9 in 2008
RickJay Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 No mention of Steve Blass? 1972: 19-8, 2.49, 4.0 WAR, and [pitched well in the NLCS: 1973: Maybe the worst season in the history of baseball by a pitcher who pitched that many innings; -4.0 WAR (really) in 88.2 IP. Walked 84 men. Just could not hit a battleship from sixty feet. His team finished 2.5 behind so it's fair to say his sudden yips cost the Pirates the division. There's a reason they call it Steve Blass Disease.
declan_44 Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Brady Anderson? 50 to 18 HR...I suppose not
Clomero Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 How about Darryl Kile? He did more that just fall off the map unfortunately. classy post right there
sachmo55 Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 For a lot of pitcher's it just a case of how the aging curve is completely different than that of many professional athletes (although they are similar to Running Backs). They often enter the league with their best raw arm speed, and it slowly declines over time from there and the process gets sped up by injuries. As they age, many pitchers get smarter and are able to adapt, but some don't and try to overcompensate. But Ankiel was more of a case of a guy who completely lost it mentally.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Oh yeah, add Mark Wholers to the list, never was the same after the 1996 WS when he gave up the game tying home run to Leyritz in gsme 4
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Darryl Strawberry Dwight Gooden Though both those guys had several successful seasons before taking a s*** in their 30's so you could blame age or "other issues"
torontofan Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Rios took a big dive. 2007 War 5.0, 2008 War 5.4, 2009 War 0.0. However, Rios came back with some decent seasons and is still chugging along. A decent case could be made for Ken Griffey JR.
James Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Baseball needs to get rid of guaranteed contracts. Ya. Could someone explain to me baseball contracts ? Are they all guaranteed? Is this because of the union ?
KSaw Verified Member Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 Bob Hamelin, Joe Charboneau, Bobby Crosby, Juan Guzman...
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