Adam Lind Status - Sore Melky at DH

[CHRIS]

Yesterday I wondered why Lind wasn't in the lineup. Didn't catch the whole game, but went to the official site to check the boxscore to see if he PH at all. He didn't, and I noticed an article that Melky was sore, which was why he was DHing and not playing the field.

 

Anybody heard anything on Lind? Can't believe I'm pining for Lind to get ABs.

[ElNik2013]

Yesterday I wondered why Lind wasn't in the lineup. Didn't catch the whole game, but went to the official site to check the boxscore to see if he PH at all. He didn't, and I noticed an article that Melky was sore, which was why he was DHing and not playing the field.

 

Anybody heard anything on Lind? Can't believe I'm pining for Lind to get ABs.

 

 

 

I haven't heard of any injuries to Lind. On this team, the guy who walks sits.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

 

 

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[CHRIS]

I haven't heard of any injuries to Lind. On this team, the guy who walks sits.

 

I guess 'cause Lind has no dingers, unlike Melky. Oh, wait.

[Atothe]

Melky is a bad player. He definitely needs steriods, magic and whatever else that can make him hit line drives. Izturis has more homers. Thats f***ing embarrassing

[CHRIS]

Melky is a bad player. He definitely needs steriods, magic and whatever else that can make him hit line drives. Izturis has more homers. Thats f***ing embarrassing

 

I won't claim to be an expert on steroids by any means, but I think he has to be either on them, or have enough time off of them for his body to adjust to not being on them. Is that a thing?

[ElNik2013]

Melky is a bad player. He definitely needs steriods, magic and whatever else that can make him hit line drives. Izturis has more homers. Thats f***ing embarrassing

 

 

If this is in fact the real Cabrera, then with an injured Reyes, you basically have last year's offense, but Bautista one year older and coming off an injury. EE starting off slowly. Minus KJ and Escobar and a bunch of 'what ifs'. You add and overmatched Buehrle, Dickey, JJ and an always inconsistent Morrow and you have Houston Astros' type production. Bad, bad team.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

It blows my mind how basically every single player on the team can underperform their career lines.

 

How is that even possible. Did they put the work in during ST?

[ElNik2013]

It blows my mind how basically every single player on the team can underperform their career lines.

 

How is that even possible. Did they put the work in during ST?

 

 

I have wondered since the opening series about ST. All I heard from Gibbons was how this was a good ball club and he would get out of the way. Well, I'm not a big guy on blaming managers or coaches, but it does make me wonder about the laid back attitude. This team was not ready for the season, don't see how anyone can refute this.

 

It seems to me that if Farrell was the manager, we would be all over him, wouldn't we? Now, that doesn't mean that the criticism would've been warranted and that we should be all over Gibbons, like they say, 2 wrongs don't make a right. At the end of the day, AA made the decisions, including hiring an almost all rookie coaching staff.

[Hemingways007]

The entire team just is not playing well, they are all under performing compared to their career norms.

[GD]

It seems to me that if Farrell was the manager, we would be all over him, wouldn't we? Now, that doesn't mean that the criticism would've been warranted and that we should be all over Gibbons,

 

You say that like there aren't thousands of fans clamoring for Gibbons' firing.

[ElNik2013]

You say that like there aren't thousands of fans clamoring for Gibbons' firing.

 

 

You're right, but I was referring to 'true fans' not the casuals. Regardless, I'm not a Gibbons detractor. I did think during the first homestand that the team wasn't ready for the season, but my gripe starts with AA he made the decisions from the manager and all rookie coaching staff to the roster.

[GD]

You're right, but I was referring to 'true fans' not the casuals. Regardless, I'm not a Gibbons detractor. I did think during the first homestand that the team wasn't ready for the season, but my gripe starts with AA he made the decisions from the manager and all rookie coaching staff to the roster.

 

Somehow I don't think it's a rookie coaching staff that's the reason that we're losing. Just a hunch, but I think it's because our players are playing about 2000000% below their career averages.

[ElNik2013]

Somehow I don't think it's a rookie coaching staff that's the reason that we're losing. Just a hunch, but I think it's because our players are playing about 2000000% below their career averages.

 

 

Somehow I agree...lol, even though my rants suggest otherwise. Today's lineup is horrible, but if they can't beat up on Joe Saunders...well, not much to say about that. At this point, let's hope they all start to play to their potential and AA realizes he made mistakes and gets rid of a few guys in june/july.

[GD]

Somehow I agree...lol, even though my rants suggest otherwise. Today's lineup is horrible, but if they can't beat up on Joe Saunders...well, not much to say about that. At this point, let's hope they all start to play to their potential and AA realizes he made mistakes and gets rid of a few guys in june/july.

 

I can't believe ANOTHER rebuild is imminent again. This just sucks.

[Captain Adama]

I can't believe ANOTHER rebuild is imminent again. This just sucks.

 

Unfortunately that's what happens when they don't properly build in the first place.

[ElNik2013]

I can't believe ANOTHER rebuild is imminent again. This just sucks.

 

 

Yeah, me neither. AA jumped the gun or was told to do so to create a buzz and sell tickets. Let's hope they go on a 20-10 stretch to at least build some value and give the team a chance to play some interesting games in August/September. Even if they get hot, I still feel 1 or 2 of Buherle, Happ, Johnson and Romero should be traded to dump some salary and possibly plug other holes. You can add Lind, Rasmus, Bonifacio, Davis, to that list, if you can get a bag of balls, you do it.

[Boxcar]

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Wow, your post count is pathetic.

[TheHurl]

As I compared this team often to the 2008 Tigers ($40M increase in payroll to disastrous results) , they did manage to get to a competitive state (albeit quite lucky to be in the Central). It helps that they got some unreal value out of Verlander and we don't appear to have anything like that ready but still I think what they have to do is build off of the base of EE, Bautista, Lawrie, Reyes, Dickey, Morrow and go back to trying to find some value somewhere. I don't really think AA is the guy to get it done but he's fell into some deals before, maybe it can happen again.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Wow, your post count is pathetic.

 

Oh great

 

Now I have to look at your avatar at a size that is 10X bigger than the old forum.

 

Perfect.

[Scion]

It blows my mind how basically every single player on the team can underperform their career lines.

 

How is that even possible. Did they put the work in during ST?

 

I'm also blown away by the team's BABIP, seemingly every Jay has a BABIP below their career rates.

[GD]

Yeah, me neither. AA jumped the gun or was told to do so to create a buzz and sell tickets. Let's hope they go on a 20-10 stretch to at least build some value and give the team a chance to play some interesting games in August/September. Even if they get hot, I still feel 1 or 2 of Buherle, Happ, Johnson and Romero should be traded to dump some salary and possibly plug other holes. You can add Lind, Rasmus, Bonifacio, Davis, to that list, if you can get a bag of balls, you do it.

 

Who would you keep, though?

 

I say build around Lawrie (duh), Morrow, and Encarnacion as the pieces from our MLB roster, MAYBE keep Reyes if you can't find a good deal, although I don't see a team like the Dodgers not willing to pony up for him. And then the obvious pieces like Sanchez and Gose from our minor league system.

 

We've got a much better core in place than we did when we started the last rebuild, and I think it'd be shorter.

[Chappy]

I'm also blown away by the team's BABIP, seemingly every Jay has a BABIP below their career rates.

 

Clearly there all feeding off each other. It's a swing for the fences philosophy that is driving this team into the gutter.

[Chappy]

Who would you keep, though?

 

I say build around Lawrie (duh), Morrow, and Encarnacion as the pieces from our MLB roster, MAYBE keep Reyes if you can't find a good deal, although I don't see a team like the Dodgers not willing to pony up for him. And then the obvious pieces like Sanchez and Gose from our minor league system.

 

We've got a much better core in place than we did when we started the last rebuild, and I think it'd be shorter.

 

No it will likely be longer imo. Your already counting on a few guys from the minors in that core and there isn't exactly a ton of high ceiling players beyond that. It will take 5 years if this team does a complete rebuild. AA will take the alternative and retool.

[Angrioter]

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[ElNik2013]

Who would you keep, though?

 

I say build around Lawrie (duh), Morrow, and Encarnacion as the pieces from our MLB roster, MAYBE keep Reyes if you can't find a good deal, although I don't see a team like the Dodgers not willing to pony up for him. And then the obvious pieces like Sanchez and Gose from our minor league system.

 

We've got a much better core in place than we did when we started the last rebuild, and I think it'd be shorter.

 

I'd say keep Bautista, Reyes and Dickey as well and go for the retool unless you can get good value in return. Getting rid of salaries will be the key, Buehrle's especially. If Happ has a decent year, you might be able to get a decent return. Guys like Nolin, Stroman and maybe even Sanchez (outside chance) could start next year at AAA. Stilson might be a fulltime reliever by next year. They can't blow the #10 pick this year, it's a very important draft. Hutchison could replace Buehrle and sign a couple of free agents. If you improve the DH production, you can live with maybe a Goins at 2B. Haven't looked at what $$ would be available. Maybe move Rasmus, Gose should be ready by next year, if not later on this year. Cabrera won't bring you much in return and his deal ain't horrible, it's a 2 year deal.

[GD]

No it will likely be longer imo. Your already counting on a few guys from the minors in that core and there isn't exactly a ton of high ceiling players beyond that. It will take 5 years if this team does a complete rebuild. AA will take the alternative and retool.

 

It's better than the core Ricciardi had in place, no? And most rebuilds do take 5 years. I think a retool could potentially work.

[Captain Adama]

I'd say keep Bautista, Reyes and Dickey as well and go for the retool unless you can get good value in return. Getting rid of salaries will be the key, Buehrle's especially. If Happ has a decent year, you might be able to get a decent return. Guys like Nolin, Stroman and maybe even Sanchez (outside chance) could start next year at AAA. Stilson might be a fulltime reliever by next year. They can't blow the #10 pick this year, it's a very important draft. Hutchison could replace Buehrle and sign a couple of free agents. If you improve the DH production, you can live with maybe a Goins at 2B. Haven't looked at what $$ would be available. Maybe move Rasmus, Gose should be ready by next year, if not later on this year. Cabrera won't bring you much in return and his deal ain't horrible, it's a 2 year deal.

 

You should be actively trying to sell Bautista, there's definitely evidence he's declining and you should trade him while he still has substantial value. Janssen should be shopped as well, especially at the deadline if the Jays go the way of a retool.

[Chappy]

It's better than the core Ricciardi had in place, no? And most rebuilds do take 5 years. I think a retool could potentially work.

 

It has to be a retool at this point. This team would decimate its fan base if they rebuilt at this point.

[o2cui2i]

It blows my mind how basically every single player on the team can underperform their career lines.

 

How is that even possible. Did they put the work in during ST?

 

there have been a lot of articles opined about the jays preseason regiment. the good teams have their players getting a LOT more ABs during ST and other teams pitchers are getting a lot more innings.

 

I think the Jays are still keeping too many s***** players in camp during the spring hoping to find fools gold. it's ok to have a couple guys you want to look at and evaluate some depth, but not at the cost of your regulars not being ready. even the last week the jays had some losers teams playing the away games.

 

doesn't make any sense.