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Same as Schneider's ball except to center. Either a) 'Pull dat ball' is not random Davis Schneider owned Blake Snell, got around on his fastball and it wasn't luck. b) 'Pull dat ball' is a bit random and if Barger or someone else 'pull dat ball' 99 mph launch angle 28 it a different game.

Shift rule? I remember Brett Lawrie led MLB in WAR a couple months into 2012 partly because he played between 3rd for right handed batters and deep second (shallow right) for left handed batters and the d-system had him with crazy range... So at least for a while Lawrie was shifting to the other side. Like until the shift rules you could do whatever the f*** you wanted. 5 outfielders. 5 infielders. Play anyone any where. And I believe there were rare cases of pitchers going to a position for a bit then back.

He got the bonus but some other guys didn't get big bonuses. I think everybody should have a couple of years MLB minimum. Barger, Loperfido, Lukes, Schneider, Fischer, Fluharty have probably only earned .... I don't know 1-1.5 million over a couple of years. Maybe Loperfido the lowest. I don't think any of those guys had big signing bonuses. Potentially those guys need to maintain accommodations in Buffalo and Toronto which can be a pain logistically. Financially part of it could be how much they are thinking ahead. Like after taxes they get 400k and that could be 95% of their lifetime earnings and they don't know what the future will bring so can't count on a big payday. Like the Barger on the couch thing. Does he feel comfortable yet spending a couple of grand on downtown accomdations for a week? Or is he thinking he has a few hundred k but that could be his life time earnings so can't blow it. Another question is how much into debt these guys might go living on a minor league salary.

Can they start him in the outfield, move to relief, back to outfield, repeat back to releif. I think rule wise they can. There would be practical issues (like warming up, who to play in the outfield when he pitches, and probably others).

Roberts says Ohtani might play outfield. Might pitch in relief. Might open. (game 7 which perhaps needs to be stopped to prevent such nonsense)... or maybe game 6 too. What are the rules on this. Game 6 I assume nothing too crazy. But game 7. He is in outfield can he come in to pitch occasionally then go back to outfield and like have a few batters scatterred over game? Probably nonsense because he wouldn't warm up, has never played the outfield and it would be weird pitching to a couple batters, resting in the outfield for a couple of innings then more... but... can they do this if they want to get creative? Have him open innings. Have him pitch against middle of order only. Then back next time Vlad comes up. If he gets guys out lesser pitcher finished inning. Have him come in if a jam... I don't know. What are the limits? I guess just it would be dumb and wouldn't work because Vlad would homer off him and the other pitchers like Glasnow/Snell are just as good ... and they can still get Ohtani in for normal inning or two without weird in and out.

Maybe 354 foot oppo in Yankee Stadium you could argue they get lucky. But even then nice job going the other way and taking advantage of the ball park.

Also 373 foot pulled fly ball. He pulled dat ball. Got around on it. I mean... he beat Snell right? Sold out for a fastball and got around on it. Don't understand what Snell is talking about there. Funny enough Mariners fans were talking the same thing about Springers game 7 homerun. It was only 99 mph so they sort of said he got lucky. First row. In both cases they beat the pitcher. Managed to pull a flyball. Pitchers job is to prevent them from pulling flyballs. Like Cal Raleigh hit a glorified pop-up down the line. But same thing. Pulled dat ball. That's why you pull dat ball if you can. Pitcher's job is to make sure batter doesn't pull a flyball.

I became a Jays fan in 1988. No internet. No forums. No chat groups. However there was Jays talk with Bob 'boccat' McCowan which was actually kind of a version of this. When did this group start? Honestly I want to say almost 20 years ago. I recall some of the posters that are still on this group posted on the Jays official forum at least as far back as the Aaron Hill years.

According the Schneider Springer has many problems some of which we will be surprised to learn after the season is over. Despite many problems which the known ones include broken knee, torn up oblique and the unknown ones are secret for now he is still deciding whether to play.

Is this AI generated? Jack Morris in 93 was worse than Mitch Williams and not rostered. Shane Bieber is not young. 93 pitching was shaky with old Dave Stewart (kind of like old Max Scherzer), shaky Juan Guzman (step back from 92 awesome Juan Guzman) and Todd StottleMyer who sucked and gave up 6 runs in the 15-14 game. 92 Jays pitching was awesome with David Cone, Jimmy Key, Juan Guzman at their best and Morris not at his best but still with mystique. 93 Jays pitching was mediocre and they won 15-14 games. 2025 Jays pitching is questionable with 10-11 'ace', a-baller Trey Yesivage, elderly Mad Max, and not exactly healthy Shane Bieber. lol. How could these guys possibly be going toe to toe with the legendary LA Dodgers? Dodgers take 18 innings to beat them and don't even win game 1?

I half joke. The Yankees one obviously silly. However with healthy Springer and Bichette Jays would probably be up 2-1 in this series. I honestly don't think the Raptors title is tainted at all. They had to get through a Bucks team that was very good and won a title soon after, and had to get through the Durant-less Warriors team who won 2 titles and 73 games in other Durant-less years. Depending on how the next games go I will taint the Dodgers 2025 title (if they win). They are down 2-1 right now in my mind with healthy Springer and Bichette.

Straw has more fWAR per inning than Barger all from base-running and defense. Whether you believe that or not I don't know. But probably any scenario 7th inning or later giving Straw one guaranteed base-running opportunity, potential defensive opportunities and 9th in the order favors Straw by whatever game modelling they do (where the simulated games mostly end before too many Straw at bats even if tied in 8th).

I don't think this is true. If you did in game modelling of every decision most would have increased the Jays chances of winning the next couple of innings, they just got screwed when the same decisions decreased the chances of winning the next 9 innings.

They construct multiple narratives and then double down on the one is that is right. If Ohtani is good tonight the Ohtani god woken up with pickoff/chants narrative will annoy the muck out of me. If Jays are scrappy with Clement and Jiminez 94 mph hits in the right spot the 'they don't strike out' narrative will start gaining a little more steam.

Yeah totally agree. Guys like Harold Reynolds always make ******** narratives then it stands out when they time it right. It wasn't Harold, but after Yankees won game 3 9-6 their was a lot of ******** naratives "shouldn't have let them win one", "you let us win one, now it's over". All forgotten.

Dodgers title will be tainted just as Raptors was in 2019. 2019 - Durant and Thompson go down 2025 - Bichette and now Springer hobbled. 2020 - Tainted because of Covid 2024 - Tainted because 3 Yankee errors gift wrapped game 5 2025 - Tainted because of Bichette and Springer injuries.

No idea if Dominguez was trying to go inside or outside when he threw the cookie down the middle to Ohtani in the 7th. Whichever way he missed by a foot. Hitting his ear might be a bit extreme, but if trying to go inside and you miss, miss hitting his back, not the middle of the plate.

You probably want to go to. Get tickets for yourself, Spanky and Grant for games 6 and 7. 100 level. 60 grand. I think Grant is mad at Spanky so need to bring them back together. I think 60 grand Canadian isn't what it used to be. Like you could get maybe a RAV4 for that but tickets to game 7 with Spanky and Grant is better. 2007 RAV4 for $4000 and the tickets > 2026 Rav4. My friend has a 2007 RAV4 and says he will be able to keep it going until 2035.

Where do you want to seat him? Just pay yourself. Get him good seats for 10 grand, you get the money back if no game 6. Then you have set up a win-win. LA wins next two you can laugh and be relieved you aren't out 10 grand. Jays win a game it sucks but we get baseball in Toronto Friday night. Of course that just means we get to watch a Yamamato shut out Friday or something. So I guess we have to buy tickets we can't afford for game 6 and 7. Dodgers probably still win in 7, everyone is bankrupt, but even losing in 7 after the 18 inning game would make the season the most epic in history.

I think with the Ohtani thing Reynolds is in my head. Harold Reynolds. On MLB network he says we woke up Ohtani with the pick-off. Not the chant. It was a weird thing. But I watched it at like 6:30 yesterday and laughed. As if Lauer "woke-up" Ohtani with a pick-off attempt. I thought Harold Reynolds is an idiot. Players don't fall a sleep. Ohtani as a hitter is halfway between Judge and Schwarber. Can get him out with a good game plan. Just as you can get Judge out. Judge struck out with bases loaded. Judge sometimes hit harmless singles before Bellinger strike-outs. Then Ohtani goes 9 for 9 in on base with 12 total bases. Harold was right. He was asleep and now he is a wake and quite literally Reynolds said it was the pick-off attempt.... not the chant.

Harold Reynolds really got into my head. On MLB network went on a 20 minute rant about how we woke up Ohtani with the pick-off in the 9th Friday night. That combined with the chants "We don't need you" just has the weird 'we insulted their honor' vibe, though Ohtani said it was a great chant. Ohtani - "That was great chant. However now we kill you. We respect your chant. A clever chant, but we still have to kill you."

Well I was (so far) wrong about Orioles so perhaps wrong about this... I took a long break from this message board partly because people just take things too seriously. It's a message board. Sometimes there is dark humor in how things work out. People don't have to take every post so seriously. This is where everyone should follow Grant's example. For like almost 20 years I think he answers almost every post with his own thoughts, instead of criticizing others. Rarely does Grant insult me when I call him a cherry picking moron, instead he usually just bring up counter-points as to why Seattle is so bad. How I really feel is that logically Ohtani should be tired so can't see him dominating tonight. I felt that way after game 4 of the 2016 ALCS too. Different scenario but I think they had an unknown lefty pitching game 5, and I thought obviously Jays could lose, but they aren't going to lose with the unknown going 4 scoreless and Miller going 2 scoreless again. That is what happened every game of the series but it just is not going to happen again. But it did. Ohtani is tired. Jays could lose. They could lose 9-6 in a tired bullpen battle. They could win 11-4. But realistically it's just not going to be another Ohtani love-fest with him being super-human coming back after the 18 inning game.... but the world has a dark sense of humor part of me thinks it will be that.

At some point you just have to accept that the world has a sense of humor. Jays try to sign Ohtani... think they have him... no Dodgers. Jays try to sign Sasaki and get cute with international money thing end up with Straw. No Sasaki. Jays still somehow on top of World on October 24th. Chant 'We don't need you'. to Ohtani Maybe they did need him. Sasaki vs Straw dream matchup but goes Sasaki's way. Logically I think Ohtani will be tired as hell tonight, 11-4 Jays. 'World has a sense humor' part of me thinks 6-1 Dodgers with Ohtani going 7 and Jays fans exposed to Ohtani love fest.

6-1 Dodgers 7th Clement - first pitch soft fly to right filed IKF - strike-out swinging Giminez - strike out swinging Joe Davis - On base 9 times last night. 12 ks today. AND on base 3 more times. That is 12 ks 12 on base in the last 2 games. John Smoltz - the guy is just not human. Dodgers fans dancing, laughing, pure joy. Blue Jays Message Board Sad. Blue Jays fans sad. Dodgers fans paid $1050 USD for upper deck but worth it. $1050 USD dollars to experience pure Joy Blue Jays Message Board - some paid $2300 Canadian to see Jonahs Brothers from 500 level and experience sadness (unless lucky enough to choose game 1 instead). Blue Jays happy - Snell won't screw up again and realize that no game 6 so get their $2300 back. So relieved.

After giving up 2 homers in 70 innings, Little now 2 homers in last 2 appearances. Like maybe he should walk 2 with a couple ks and groundouts. Better then solo homerun in that scenario. Though we wouldn't of scored against Yamamoto anyway, so Little saved Bieber