Carlos Danger

Merry Go Round... Which is not what I would like... But pretty sure that is the direction they are going... Barring trade etc....

They still have a lot more in the pipe coming their way. Even if 2/3rd of their specs s*** the bed, they still have an infusion of talent coming. They still have a 1, 2 punch of Burnes and Rodriguez.. Their 4 and 5 guys were palatable last year and they always find a way to have a good pen, even in their dog days... I wouldn't discount them.

Great pick-up by the Rays. I was hoping he would come to TO as our UT guy.

Probably because of this. Why wouldn't you have question marks.. He got what 0 ABs in the playoffs? 4 Blue Jays players who have no business being on the 2023 playoff roster The decision could be tough and harsh, but which Blue Jays players should be left off the postseason roster? In his first 21 games with the big league club, Schneider hit a scorching .403 with a 1.416 OPS, along with 18 runs scored, nine doubles, seven home runs, 19 RBI, 17 walks and 22 strikeouts. More importantly, the Jays went 14-7 in those games that he played, as he appeared to be unstoppable. However, he is currently mired in quite the slump, as in his past 13 games, Schneider has only tallied three hits in a total of 50 plate appearances, posting a dreadful .067 batting average, .316 OPS with three runs scored, one home run, one RBI and 20 strikeouts. As a result, he has been noticeably absent from the starting lineup during the Jays’ crucial last week of play of the season. Even though Schneider has had an amazing start to his MLB career, his recent extended slump is a huge concern as it showed that there were still some things he needs to work on at the big league level, especially when pitchers have finally figured him out.

If only I was arguing about the Jays giving out minor league contracts, you and I would be in agreement. 100% agree with your above statement. My concern in all my posts is the MLB roster composition/current possibilities.

Message board? What kinda damage is he going to do to the cheese board in the clubhouse!???

See Max, I am ok with a retort like this. It doesn't have an arrogance of a know it all telling a long time poster to delete their account. Back to my original post and what many of the posters in this thread are not, or purposely not distinguishing. There is a difference between bringing in depth, happens all the time and I am 100% ok with. VS. - Not having a a sufficiently adequate roster and throwing mud at the wall/hoping to hit lighting in the bottle and something sticks to fill weaknesses on the MLB roster. Yes, lots of teams have to do this. Teams have been and are doing it for years. We were hoping on significant improvement from last year. Especially since our competition is getting better. The reason these moves are being highlighted is because up until now (time left) the team is just trying to equal last year's production and I have not seen any significant improvement. It is all replacement level moves vs taking the team to next level. Remember page 1 of the IFK signing thread - If he is a depth piece solid move. No way he is our starting 3b, don't get panties in a bunch, just a depth move. IFK- Currently the starting 3b.

Rich coming from the guy who is literally the worst talent assessor and knows less about actually building a winning Team than any of the frequent posters on the board. Wouldn’t be the first time this has been pointed out either. Go shout to the clouds about some broadcaster using the win stat or something.

The Phillies have Stott at 2b.

What would be more entertaining than watching the Panda and Vogelbach play baseball is maybe a Sumo match or an eating contest or straight up 1980's WWF....

Jesus, the Giants signed the Panda to a milb deal... They are even more desperate for depth than the Blue Jays

Billy Eppler likes your style...

I just woke up out here in Cali. Which one is it? Zombie invasion? (which I am ready for and knew was coming!). Because it appears Volgelbach is already planned for or very close to being considered for the MLB roster.

We have a bunch of unknown mid talent. Even Duke Stachio wasn’t given ABs in the playoffs until the very end and he sucked the last part of the season. We have a bunch of unknowns who have never played in MLB and other guys who most of us wish were cut from the roster plus your boy Biggio. You well know that tons of top 20 specs flame out and we don’t even have any top 50 on the way. The point I am making is my gut, based upon looking at the roster up until now, is the Jays are not just signing these guys for depth, which is generally for if a bunch of guys get hurt, but also because they need to plug holes on the MLB roster. Which is different than just deep injury depth. There is nada wrong with signing 100 guys on milb contracts. Just in this particular case it highlights mlb roster deficiencies to this point IMO.

Same group who said, IFK is a depth piece only..... Maybe, but................................................................

Most of you are wrong. You are not assessing these moves in the correct context. Every team signs depth pieces and AAAA guys and washed up near washed up vets for Milb depth. These moves for the first time in years are because we don't have solid options at the MLB and MILB level. When we did these moves in the past, it was with Josh D, or Matt Chapman etc at 3B and we had a some decent backups on the 40 man. We had our bona fide DH or 2b etc, etc. Depth pitchers, I would never say a peep, you can never have to many. These moves are the Blue Jays hoping that they hit lighting in a bottle and as a hedge against the mid MLB roster they have so far. I did preface that the off season is not over and lots of FAs out there and trade possibilities. As it stands however, we don't have a 3b or DH we should go to war with and expect a playoff spot. If Turner plays 3b we need a real DH, If IFK plays 3b and Turner DHs, IFK is not someone who should be our starting 3b, especially when you have a Hodge podge at 2b and no real heavy hitters in the OF. I am getting Kevin Mench and Brad Wilkerson vibes as our patch plan starters this year.. I like JT, but the Dude is old and could fall apart any minute.

I know the off-season is not over yet and the two signings today are depth moves and MILB deals. However, it is reminding me of the JPR days of dumpster diving.... If you have strong farm and core do you really even make these moves....? It is like we are making moves to just keep our head above water, and not actually, win the swim race... Because if either of the two signings have to play regularly on the MLB club, we are screwed...

Mets' Buck Showalter, Billy Eppler at Odds Over Daniel Vogelbach's Playing Time The New York Mets' manager and general manager butted heads during the season about Daniel Vogelbach's playing time. PAT RAGAZZO OCT 5, 2023 12:57 PM EDT NEW YORK METS It became a problem. According to Mike Puma of The New York Post, manager Buck Showalter and general manager Billy Eppler butted heads over designated hitter Daniel Vogelbach's playing time during the season. The New York Mets acquired Vogelbach at the 2022 trade deadline to be their DH against right-handed pitching. But the 30-year-old struggled to begin the 2023 season, and when Showalter tried to deploy other options at DH, he was met with push back from Eppler and was told he had to play him, per Puma. Showalter felt that the DH position should be used as a rotation to get players rest while keeping them in the lineup. He also took issue with Vogelbach's limited skillset. After a 75 win season, Showalter was fired as new president of baseball operations David Stearns came in and wanted to bring in his own manager. Vogelbach was known for getting on-base, but Showalter believed his lack of power didn't warrant being in the lineup on a regular basis, per Puma. Vogelbach's lack of mobility also meant he couldn't play the field. Vogelbach's struggles only made the situation worse, as he had a .690 OPS by the All-Star break. In addition to Vogelbach, Jeff McNeil, Starling Marte and Brett Baty were all disappointing in the first half and Francisco Alvarez was inconsistent. As Puma reported, the assumption was that Vogelbach would be traded at the deadline, but when that didn't happen it led to Showalter openly questioning why he was still on the team. After Vogelbach remained on the team, Eppler told Showalter to keep him in the starting lineup, despite his lack of production. While the organization was debating whether to call-up Ronny Mauricio and give him regular playing time, Vogelbach had his best month in August with six home runs and a .890 OPS. But in the month of September, Vogelbach received just 21 at-bats and didn't play in the team's final eight games, as Mauricio was called up and Baty was brought back, signaling the Mets' commitment to youth down the stretch of the season. Vogelbach finished the year slashing .233/.339/.404 with 13 homers and 48 RBIs. Stearns (who was with the Milwaukee Brewers) and Eppler both acquired Vogelbach. The Mets will have to decide this offseason whether to tender Vogelbach a contract, as he is in his final year of arbitration. This decision will ultimately be Stearns' call, while Eppler remains as GM.

He was apparently a source of a lot of consternation between the Met's manager and FO, a la Moneyball (The movie) GM vs Manager..

Phillies are a great fit for two hit Whit!

Fixed it

Fever Pitch. They were filming during the season to actually incorporate a scene into the movie when the Red Sox actually real life won the WS. They had to rewrite the script because the writers had actually assumed they would lose in the playoffs. The actors were filmed running on the field and celebrating.

Last time they followed the Red Sox with a camera they won the World Series... The movie with Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore...

Marlin’s DFA Groshans.. Good of our FO to move him. I remember when he was the next big thing in the Blue Jay’s org and another whomp, womp , wommmp..

Not that type of Fantasy game, Hog f***er..