Carlos Danger

About right....

I would put Ross on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP).With one more year to show improvement. There are strengths and weaknesses of the Atkins/Shapiro duo. However, I see no improvement on the weakness sides in a lot of respects. Manoha is the only home grown stud pitcher since the 2015 off season. Romano was a hold over from the AA regime and they ended up rule 5ing the dude. Most of the playoff teams have homegrown guys in their pen and high leverage roles. The Jays do not apart from Romano and he is an AA product. Mayza I don't consider a stud and he is an AA product also. Depth- I find it egregious the lack of depth planning or depth itself for the Jays. It was plain as day to me that we did not have the SP depth going into this season. Ruy was always hurt, a year older and a high probability he would get hurt or suck. Kickuchi had half a season of decent pitching and it was the first half of 2021 not the second half. The second half should have been an indicator not an outlier. Right there you have 2/3 of your rotation questionable. An injury to either Gausman, Manoah or Berrios and you have only Stripling as a reasonable back up and no one thought he would exceed expectations. Even with 5 awesome SPs with no injury history, you need depth beyond one SP. Our lack of SP depth and s***** outing from our SPs almost cost us big time and def why we were a WC and not division champs. The BP- We were a single point of failure from being really screwed if we lost Romano for any amount of time or he went into a serious slump. Our eggs were all in one basket and that is a horrible strategy. The trade deadline was risk averse, I blame that on Shapiro and goes back to him never winning a WS. The trade deadline was insufficient to address what our needs were and when not considered in a vacuum. Our competition improved more significantly then we did. The game 1 loss was example A. Bass lost his closer role in Miami because he is not a late inning guy. He is a 6-7 inning guy and just doesn't have the makeup for late inning stuff. It is in the splits and Saturday was a good example. Pop is a good future acquisition IMO but didn't do anything for putting us over the top in 2022. White-- Well, we saw that you are not going to Ross Stripling the Dodgers more than once and did nothing to take us to the next level. How nice would it have been to have a 1-2 punch of Romano and Iglesias or some the amount of high leverage options out of the Mariner's, Astros, Braves, Cleveland, Tampa or Yankees pens, even with their injuries. I did like the Merrifield acquisition, but without upgrades in other areas and not being a left bat, his positives were mitigated. You need to move your assets in area of strengths when at their highest value. We have three really good catchers and we have Chapman at 3b. Not sustainable and if you have to move one, why not when you have the best chance at the playoffs and making your team next level not just good enough to get in a wildcard. We can't be waiting for next year and the year after. Boston will better next year, the Orioles will be better, the Rays are the Rays and the Yankees the Yankees. Seattle will continue to be good with their youth and I expect more out of the Twins and especially the White Sox next year. Houston is always good and is rich in pitching and Detroit is up and coming. No guarantees we even get a WC next year. This was our year and we played it too safe, did not address needs and failed egregiously to plan for more depth in areas which were obvious risk factors. We need better D from some of our stars also... That is more on coaching though IMO. We need consistency, too many highlight plays but then not making the routine play or plays that are reflecting on our run prevention. Improved run prevention and optimizing our offense, left handed stud batters etc. I will give you 1 more year on probation Ross. Produce or we need to take corrective actions,

The center fielder needs to call the ball and the IF or another OF needs to break off. Miscommunication by OF and IF cost us badly in the ALCS game 6, yesterday and I also recall a game in 2015/2016 where Pillar and someone collided. Collisions happen, but most of the time it is due to someone not taking charge and calling off or another player disregarding. I don’t buy the “luck” thing on the bloop hit. Someone already pointed out Springer covers more ground then where the ball landed. Springer broke off due to seeing Bo coming out. The little bloop that Donaldson got to tie it in the 7th inning game 5, 2015. Odor was not playing where he should have been on D and it went just over his head. Looked like luck, but was enabled by Odor playing too far in then he normally does, should. Then on the other side, the offensive team needs to make contact and hit a ball in the first place to make it a bloop etc instead of a K or IF fly etc. Look at all the luck we had on easy outs or double play balks in 2015 and the 2016 wildcard game. Russel Martin hit a ground ball out and a double play ball in 2016 WC, both were botched. But.. he made contact and put the ball in play..

We were jinxed when the GDT said 1 of 3. Should have just said game 1

Luck can def play a role in a game, multiple times. However, this wasn’t a 15 inning game where a team scored a run on luck or a 1-0 game. We lost by one run, but we were up 8-1 and allowed 10 runs. That has nothing to do with just luck.

The A’s are all about a really s***** stadium IMO. I think they have the fanbase.

The pen needs to be very high on that list. Even when the pen was doing “ok”, it was a single point of failure from being really subpar. We have no one that can do what Romano did most of the year. If Romano is gassed from previous games, hurt or in a slump, our pen is a total crapshoot, more so then it was/is already.

They scored 10 runs. To score three runs someone is getting on base X2 or x3 and someone is driving those runs in. If it is errors it is D, bad routes, misreads, miscommunication in the OF etc, it is D. If they are making contact enough to find holes to get 3 runs it is on the pitchers. We lost because our run prevention sucked after a certain point in the game and no way I am blaming 1O runs on luck, the ump or even the manager. It takes a team effort to allow 10 runs.

You don’t score 10 runs on luck. It has to do with s***** pitching and D. You also make your own luck by making contact etc.

They scored 9 runs today and lost at home. The reason for the loss yesterday was run prevention, lack of. Pitching and defense!!!!!

That was over a number of days as mentioned and the deciding game was a one run loss or very close game I believe. Today, was a bigger loss in context then any that I can recall and I have been watching since the 80’s.

So what about Gausman's finger/cut... I don't see anything about it?

There has been a 1/2 inning of baseball dudes, chill...

I was shockingly impressed by Raleigh's power, even on foul balls when I saw him in person last week.

Thank you!!!

I just realized I can't watch the game on MLB TV. We cut the cord a while ago and don't have basic cable etc. Anyone have a link to watch in the U.S? Thanks!

The Cardinals are loving getting 5 ip 0 runs out of Quintana...

Isn't Richards a fly ball pitcher... I mean the Mariners kept Flexen off the roster and I would rather have Flexen then Kickuchi or Richards for long relief.

Can we get some Barry White up in here!!!!!!! Like now please! Jonn needs to recharge his boner.

1 game is too early to be throwing shade. Almost every mlb team has enough high end juice to go 1 game.

The fact that Kickuchi and Richards are on the roster is scary and goes to lack of pitching/BP depth in general that I have been/am worried about.

Everyone is blue and white tonight except the Blue Jays… They are red..

Run prevention boys!! No defensive errors.. Looking at you Bo!! No bone head base running either! Do the little things right and the big things will fall into place!!

You missed the whole point of the post. Yea the HRs got them to extras but none of them helped with their extra innings runs. The fact they have the faith to replace France and Saurez with their bench guys and what the bench was able to produce that game is drastically altered by the loss of Haggerty and Winker. The fact is on the road they might not be so aggressive with subs, but I still think those two injuries will weaken the Mariners in a playoff series.

I was at the Mariner’s game last Thursday night. There were 9 hrs hit and not one ended up making a difference in the win. The game went 11 innings and the Mariners were down by 1 going into the bottom of the 10th and 11th. The Mariners were able to tie the game twice in extras and finally win by their ability to pinch run, pinch hit, make contact and get a stolen base. They PR for France and Saurez, two of their three best hitters. There were some key at bats by their bench to get a hit, get on base, move the ball over and steal a base. Specifically the winning run in the 11th. Losing Haggerty and Winker weakens that bench significantly and removes multiple tools I saw in use in last Thursday’s win.