Bobthe4th

Bias from him already appearing in the majors I assume.

Also interesting that they have Vlad as high as 11 and Alford 15.

We're not getting anything better than a rule 5 candidate for Goins and agree with you that the market for Bautista is extremely limited. Osuna - why would you trade him unless we're going full rebuild in which case every single player should be up for trade. Even if you think next year is a right off, 2019 could easily have Alford, Bo, Vlad, Gurriel all playing, that's nearly half a team that could then be really good in 2020 no matter what happens in the meantime. Osuna has great trade value because he's such a valuable asset as he reached the majors so early, he's still young with 3 more years of control. Lights out relievers are hard to find, incredibly expensive to sign in free agency, and are underrated by WAR. I'd replace those three in your list with: 1. Happ - the extra year on his contract makes him a better asset than Estrada for someone like the Astros who could do with pitching for the playoffs. 2. Joe Smith - his injury limits his return but we could get a Mark Lowe like return (i.e. what we gave up to get an in form rental reliever) of a few lottery tickets. 3. Liriano - similar to Estrada in that his recent performance limits his value, but he can either start or be long relief from the bullpen, and he is left handed, so that means a playoff team would probably give up more than nothing for him.

Did you see Pearce today? He shouldn't be relied on as an everyday outfielder, even if he can stay fit when a year older. If we could somehow find a way to move Morales he could share 1B / DH with Smoak. Depressing as it is Carrera isn't going anywhere, 2 more years of control.

If Alford sticks when he's back from the DL, he can take Bautista's roster spot in 2018, and we'd still need another outfielder as well as Pillar.

Yeah but asking him to go 2 innings would be an injury risk.

Goins to pitch the 9th?

Sign of the apocalypse - Spanky's optimism for the Jays disappearing. This series has just been so depressing! I'm still hoping for a turnaround (maybe the all star break will help) but it's more a hope than belief now.

What's the record aggregate score in a 3 game series sweep?

Pearce error - there we go.

So is Sparkman worth keeping or is this it for him? It wouldn't hurt keeping him if we're completely giving up on the season (which is a series loss to the Yankees away).

That rant came out of nowhere, he must just be having a bad day.

Error in left field, predictable..... hold on it's not our LF!

Thrown out at home plate (kind of) - see this game can still be exciting!!

Scrub AAA starter we signed in the offseason to fill out the Bisons rotation. He was called up after the bullpen was emptied in the first game of the series last night.

Gurriel could be the long term solution, but after his injury to start this season, 2018 might be too soon for him.

Yeah could easily see him going in the summer. Pompey will likely be a September call up with a last chance to impress and try to win a job for next year.

Exactly. However, judging by our luck so far this season, after the all star break Smoak turns into a pumpkin and Pearce gets injured!

If Smoak and Pearce both have a good second half of the season, I'd trade whichever one gets the best return. Really don't like Pearce in LF especially when he's a year older next year.

The outfielders next year are more likely to be Pillar, Alford, Smith Jr, and Carrera as the 4th one.

Just pointing out it's not all doom and gloom!

Martin has been as good as ever for us this season.

If Stroman, Sanchez and Biagini dominate next year we could have a good season no matter what.

If they did sell, Happ and Pearce might have alright value and they don't have long term contracts.

It's hard to watch where he tries to walk and his knee just gives way.