Brownie19

Almost hit the "hit it here sign" no?

that's not how racism works.

It's kind of fascinating that it's not illegal when it happens on a baseball diamond - even when fighting isn't 'allowed' (like it is in hockey).

Isn't assault, assault? German's is worse because it's a man hitting a woman? or are we suggesting Odor's was more acceptable because Jose "had it coming to him"?

I doubt anyone would argue that.

I would have said the same thing about Machado last offseason and here he is shiting the bed in 2019...

And Vazquez admits to having sexual encounters with a 13 year old. Good luck in jail bud.

Grant - please provide examples of MVP calibre players returning from injuries who were traded for solid returns. As BTS points out - good luck. Also, please point me to the pitchers with lesser value than Stro who were traded for a better package than SWR + Kay. Are you going to say Puig, Reyes and Logan Allen? JBB, Beer and Martin?

Bo didn't know who Macho Man was either. Pretty sad. Makes me feel old.

I'm confused by this. Is his mother saying that she doesn't have a daughter (named Priscilla)? You're suggesting Priscilla is some spiritual guide that Felipe has made up and she isn't actually a reason person? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/17/sports/baseball/pittsburgh-pirates-felipe-vazquez-arrested.html That article explains that Priscilla is his half sister, who's also his agent and they live together in the offseason. She looks kinda real to me Ang. WTF?

I see no reason why Gurriel or Teo can't play RF...

I think he's just trying to say that Tulo, Martin, Pillar, Sanchez, Biagini (the fan favourites) weren't worth much in terms of value, when the FO traded them. You can't trade them for 'pennies on the dollar' when they aren't worth s*** to begin with. That's obviously omitting Stro, who had lots of value when traded. Time will tell if we actually traded him for 'pennies on the dollar' of if we got something of value for him. People like Grant suggesting they 'know' we traded them for less than their actual value are fooling themselves. None of us have any idea.

Joe Rogan does.

I have to think it was all about locking him up before he was worth a lot more. Maybe that breakout % was higher in their minds (30%?). No idea. Twins locked up Max Kepler before this year's breakout and I bet everything thinks they are brilliant for it. The probabilities for Kepler were probably very similar to those of Grichuk. That doesn't make Minnesota's FO brilliant and Toronto's stupid.

There's a pretty large difference between the team not being 'in' on big name FA's and the big name FA's not wanting to sign here.... Also - there's very recent precedence of a big name guy signing with a s***** team with a good core of young prospects (Machado)

Clemens was signed 4 years $40M with a opt-out after year 2 (which he exercised - didn't demand his way out) BJ Ryan was in this prime, signed long term to huge money AJ Burnett Paul Molitor Russell Martin How many mega contracts did the Padres sign before Hosmer/Machado? I mean f*** man, most teams don't have a major track record of landing big name guys

https://tht.fangraphs.com/ricky-romero-has-a-story-to-tell/ little story about Ricky Ro here.

Well - he was coming off seasons of 3.0, 2.2, 1.5 and 2.1 WAR and entering his prime (ages 28-30). I suspect there were positive signs of a potential breakout (3-4 WAR player) and they wanted to lock him up before that happened - recognizing if the breakout doesn't happen, then he should remain a 2 WAR player, which isn't so awful for $11M per. If I were to guess, the probabilities were likely: Breakout - 20% Maintain Current - 70% Pumpkin - 10% In 2019 - we got the f***ing pumpkin guys. Does that make this move a bad decision? I'd argue it doesn't - it's just bad results. His GB% is up a bit this year and for some reason the power is gone (otherwise, most of the #'s all look the same). I'd suspect there's a pretty high chance he can make adjustments and return to the 2 WAR level next year - albeit his breakout chances have diminished. If I were to guess, the probabilities for Sogard this year were likely: 2.2 WAR player, Jays best positional player, traded for a couple lottery tickets - 5% Below average bench player - 20% Cut in Spring Training - 75% I mean Sogard came with absolutely no risk, but I'm not going to praise Shatkins for turning him into 2 lottery picks. They got lucky.

This narrative has got to stop. What is this based on? Shatkins didn't sign big name guys in Cleveland? The Jays didn't sign big name guys under Beeston? I mean it's by no means a lock we'll be in on these guys (and maybe we won't obviously), but to rule that possibly out completely is just dumb. Shatkins has never been in this position with the Jays (good, cost controlled young core + lots of budget available). We all have no idea how they'll approach this.

They had 48 and 43 PA's respectfully man. Give it a rest. When asked by the media, you'd prefer Atkins to say "these new guys I got - they are s***. We know they're s***, but they have some tools and there's a 1-2% chance that one of them becomes a useful bench piece. We're going to give them a very short audition to see what they've got." Seriously - worrying about what any GM says to the media is f***ing stupid. It doesn't matter who it is or what the sport is. Listening to the media or broadcasters in general is a waste of time.

^this. This is correct.

Yep - 1 guy thinks he's good. That's how it works.

fify

There are so many f***ing days off in the post season that you could do this a couple times per series without it burning out your pen. The discussion on how to fit in more playoff series is easy - eliminate all the days off and mimic the regular season (more closely).

All interesting stuff. I just assume with our modern day technology hitters have so much more data on how pitchers are attacking them. They know where their weak spots are and either work on the adjustments to improve there (or they work on laying off pitches they can't hit). Changing your swing path isn't nearly as hard as it was 10-20 years ago. While I agree it's easier for a pitcher to change grips/location, I don't think it's as hard for hitters to adjust anymore. Didn't Teo go down to AAA and work on hitting the high fastball over a month or so before returning with significant improvement? How much failure will it take for someone to try and make adjustments? I'd suggest Rys Hoskins is going to try and make those adjustments this offseason despite a 124 wRC+.