Brownie19
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The incentive is him getting paid... Legit reporters stretch the truth all the time now. Look at Morosi. Almost nothing he reports is true or accurate. It's all about headlines and clicks now. -
Just another aimless report from some nobody who needs to create content to get paid. People use this stuff to create rage. We can probably just conclude the Jays are interested in every remaining FA (except Jay Jackson). I would hope Atkins (and any GM out there who's looking to compete) is interested and checking in on all the remaining important FAs. That's kind of their job. At this point, it just seems so far fetched for the Jays to just start landing multiple big name guys.
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TREAD ATHLETICS (@tread_athletics) • Instagram reel WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM 198 likes, 0 comments - tread_athletics on January 4, 2025: "Mariners reliever Trent Thornton made major strides after... Cool little video about improvements Trent Thornton made. I hope most our fringe RPers spent the off-season in a lab...
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Hard to comment without knowing how much communication there has been already, but I generally agree with you. Perhaps they were "close" enough to give Atkins confidence that they were going to get something done - and then Soto changed the market? Or perhaps Atkins just got bit in the ass - believing Vlad was just posturing - asking for a lot, whereas the Jays believed it was just a "shoot for the stars" request, only for Soto to change the market and now they are f***ed. One thing to consider is the Jays can't force Vlad to discuss or resolve this. They can ask, but if he doesn't get serious about discussing it, they can't get anywhere. Again, perhaps they should have s*** or gotten off the pot earlier - concluding Vlad wouldn't ever get serious with them, or perhaps he's been stringing them along (playing them one might say), suggesting he'd be willing to have serious negotiations this offseason. Who knows.
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Report: Blue Jays make offer to Santander https://thescore.com/mlb/news/3178909
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I like this idea + Moncada at 3rd, if they have the money to do this + a couple BP arms and a depth starter like Lance Lynn. That seems like a ton of moves that need to fall into place. Ugggh
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I think everyone understands that. It's just there are scenarios where he'll be worth as much, or possibly more (slimmer chance, but could happen) at the deadline. That does allow the Jays to defer that decision and play out the 1st half of the season and see what happens. If Rogers wants butts in seats, this may ultimately be what happens. As you note, there are obvious risks in that approach - and Atkins hands could be somewhat tied. It would be interesting to know just "how much more" teams would give us right now v. at the deadline - assuming he has another strong season. Is it 10% more value? 25%? 50%?
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Fair enough...
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Thanks for pointing this out - I spent a lot of time yesterday looking at who was left off this team and it seems mind boggling. In addition to the names already noted, how do they leave Beckett Sennecke off the roster? 3rd overall pick in the draft last year? Get Dave Cameron away from this program.
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Shouldn't this be moved into one of the several threads about Tony Salamander?
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He's just saying it would be the ideal situation for the Jays to get "the most" in return for Vlad.
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It is, but there are like 4-5 main threads that everyone looks at (I assume). Around Baseball and the MiLB/Prospect threads are in that group. If we want to keep GDT's and stuff like that separate, I get it, but to check the main threads, it's a lot more clicking now. That said - love the new site and I'm sure this is just most of us getting used to a new system.
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Countdown to ST 2025 (In Blue Jays Jersey Numbers)
Brownie19 replied to Pendleton's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
To be fair, the uniforms have essentially been the same from 2012 to now and use the "2019-Present" logo. I'm not sure why this illustration suggests a difference between 2012-2019 and 2019-Present. The Jays still use the 2012-2019 logo - it was on the front of the Springer hockey jersey's last year. Either way - the revamp in 2012 was amazing and much needed. I think the Jays rock some of the best threads in MLB. Everything we did from 1997-2011 was horrendous. -
TREAD ATHLETICS (@tread_athletics) • Instagram reel WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM 1,945 likes, 2 comments - tread_athletics on December 9, 2024: "Tanner Scott went from an average big-league reliever to a highly sought-after trade piece in his platform year... Interesting little video about Scott and the changes he made with Tread Athletics to harness his "stuff" and become elite.
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Countdown to ST 2025 (In Blue Jays Jersey Numbers)
Brownie19 replied to Pendleton's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Early candidate for POTY. This is so true. Those last 2 pictures make my eyes bleed. -
Agreed - I'm not a huge fan of having to click out of "Toronto Blue Jays Talk" and into "Other Baseball" or "Blue Jays Minor League Talk" to get to the Around Baseball or Official MiLB/Prospect threads. At least I'm not used to it at all yet.
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I must admit - I never knew Danny Ainge played baseball at all, let alone for the Blue Jays. This really shows how much baseball has changed. I know the Jays were still a s***** expansion team at the time, but they sent a 2 sport athlete, drafted out of high school, directly to AAA, where he was terrible - and then called him up and gave him 331 PA's at the age of 20 (where he produced a 45 wRC+ and -0.7 WAR). Unreal.
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I hear what you're saying. He could choose to improve his english to the point that he's comfortable enough to use it during an interview. That probably would endear him with more fans. But as was pointed out, there's a good chance he's been told not to do that - not to risk it. At the end of the day - player interviews are stupid anyway.
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I'd certainly be happy with 3 years of Parades (3.85 WAR/yr in his first 2 full seasons) and the 14th overall pick in last years draft (73rd overall prospect) + an arm for Vlad. Seems similar to what SD got for Soto last year. It would give the Jays an opportunity to retool quicker than a full teardown/rebuild.
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Don't be a d*ck please. Perhaps I should have re-phrased it to ask "how much more" do you get by trading him now v. at the deadline. The difference may be less than you think under certain circumstances.
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I'm not convinced there are more "suitors" now. That could change by the deadline due to injuries and such. You could also have teams that wouldn't currently consider him, change their minds if they are "one piece away" at the deadline. #2 and #3 are fair - especially the point that they could trade him at the deadline if their season doesn't go the way they'd hoped. That's a strong point. You could very well be right though - 85% chance you "get more now".
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Vientos is awful defensively at 3rd though...it seems like a good fit to let Alonso go and move him to 1st...
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He was projected for 3 years $36M on Fangraphs. I have to think Hoffman and Scott sign for "about that". Unfortunately, I'm not sure we have the budget left to sign someone like that. I do wonder what 1 year of Ryan Helsley would cost via trade.
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Do we know how true this is? I think we've certainly seen the value of players change as the season progresses due to injuries/needs. If there's a rash of closers hurt, you can get more for him at the deadline than you may have at the start of the season. That may not apply to someone at the level of Vlad, but if Vlad is in the midst of a massive season, I could certainly see a bidding war at the deadline. Sometime when teams can "taste it" they're more inclined to pay the price. Interesting topic to discuss.
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100% - that's a terrible return IMO.
