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  1. It’s a rock and a hard place situation. Trade him for Jacob Waguespack and Chad Spanberger, or qualify him for a comp pick and use it to draft Tucker Toman. There’s no way to win here.
  2. The 2nd and 3rd Wild Card spots are currently occupied by AL Central teams. The Astros (while on a hot streak) have legit question marks due to health, and so do the Rays. In other words, the Jays barring a collapse will probably be close enough to a wild card spot to justify (in their minds) to stand pat, and honestly, based on Atkins’ track record when he sells, I’d almost prefer they stand pat just to avoid the Kikuchi for Trey Sweeney type of trades that Atkins would probably do in that scenario.
  3. Ricciardi was basically Ross Atkins if Atkins had the 15th-20th highest payroll in the league every year. They pretty much had the same strengths (big league moves, trades when buying rather than selling) and the same weaknesses (drafting, player development, trading for prospects). One thing Atkins did better than JP though was when making trades, Atkins generally did not subtract from the big league roster. During the big 2006 off season, Ricciardi acquired Glaus and Overbay in trades, but traded Hudson (starting 2B), Batista (closer who should have been a SP), and Bush (SP) in those deals. Batista and Bush combined for a 6.7 WAR in 2006 starting for other teams, while Josh Towers and Gustavo Chacin had a combined -0.9 WAR and basically cost the Jays any hope of competing that year. At least Atkins traded from the minor league system when he was getting players like Berrios and Chapman, so it had better odds of working out in his favor. Either way, if I had to choose between one or the other, I'd choose neither.
  4. I think we all fell for Shapiro’s smooth talking. He’s done some good things for the org but almost none of it has been on the actual baseball side. It’s mostly been other things (renovations, Dunedin, getting Rogers to spend). His body of work with Cleveland when he was GM there was ass. Drafting was just as bad as what we’ve seen with Atkins (if not worse). The 2001 Indians drew 3.2m fans. Shapiro took over as GM from 2002-10, and in 2010 (his final year as GM) they drew 1.4m fans. Luckily the Jays had the payroll capacity to make up for Shapiro’s weaknesses because if they had a mid tier payroll from 2020-23, then this team probably doesn’t sniff the post season.
  5. These are the names of the prospects Atkins acquired during his selling in 2017-19: Teoscar Hernandez, Samad Taylor, Thomas Pannone, Santiago Espinal, Forrest Wall, Chad Spanberger, Bryan Baker, Billy McKinney, David Paulino, Hector Perez, Jacob Waguespack, Corey Copping, Julian Merryweather, Demi Orimoloye, Trent Thornton, Ronny Brito, Andrew Sopko, Juan De Paula, Edisson Gonzalez, Curtis Taylor, Simeon Woods Richardson, Anthony Kay, Thomas Hatch, Kyle Johnston, Derek Fisher. Other than Teoscar and a season and a half of Espinal, that's a depressing list. Couldn't even turn any of those arms into useful relievers. The closest thing he's done to selling since then is trading Teo to the Mariners, and we will see if Macko turns into anything. So to answer the question, no, Atkins is not the right man for the job.
  6. Leo Jimenez coming into tonight's game has a 134 wRC+ (.260/.431/.420) and .423 xwOBA in AAA. Still 22. Supposed to be a good defensive SS. Out of options after this season. Wonder if he's trade bait or someone the Jays plan to use at the big league level. If it's the latter, then they might want to get him some big league reps somehow because he'll have to be on the 26 man roster if he's still on the team in 2025.
  7. Because they want to build a "sustainable contender" with nothing but vetrins.
  8. The pitching and defense have to be perfect every game. It's not sustainable and you gotta feel for the pitchers. Every pitch is high leverage all season. Heads need to roll for building an offense this bad while paying the CBT.
  9. Baseball God's trying to tell the Jays to sell at the deadline.
  10. Nicely done Mayza. Now please add a run (or 5) in the 9th to add some cushion.
  11. Don't like taking Garcia out for Mayza here, but much like with most decisions JS makes, you gotta hope for the best.
  12. Wow huge break for the Jays.
  13. Why didn't Vlad let it go? Would have been a K.
  14. Garcia has been incredible this season. Top of the O's order and you had confidence that he could get out of it, and he did.
  15. Man, Jimmy is awesome.
  16. I think that's the annoying part of the 2023-24 Jays. Springer not calling Vlad off is going to play huge here because the team can't score to save their lives. Defense has to be perfect every game. Of course, pulling your best starter in the 5th inning on 88 pitches when he's dominating and the pen aside from Jimi and Romano is ass cheeks doesn't help either.
  17. JS not getting himself tossed there is some weak s***.
  18. That’s the thing, I don’t mind pulling Kikuchi with Mountcastle up but not in the 5th inning when you only have 2 good relievers.
  19. Are they seriously pulling Kikuchi with 88 f***ing pitches and pitching this well for Pop?
  20. Cavan Biggio with tears in his eyes watching that KK at bat.
  21. Vlad and Bo being dangerous again definitely changes the dynamic of the lineup, especially now that they've conceded that DS is a starter, and Jansen is getting the bulk of the catching time.
  22. Acquiring Chisholm works in multiple ways as it would make Mattingly's head explode and maybe Donnie would resign immediately after.
  23. There was an organizational shift in 2023. Something drastically changed within with the org with the way they viewed offense, both in the Majors and Minors, and I have no idea who the culprit(s) is or was. It's like Atkins saw what happened in Game 2 of the Seattle series and said "we aren't Guardian enough", and proceeded to model the entire org around Cleveland except without Jose Ramirez and with a $100m rotation rather than developing it internally.
  24. AA in 2015 was more “analytical” than AA in 2013. Either that or he just got better. Going from “building a track team” or whatever Beeston described it as when they acquired Reyes and Bonifacio to getting JD, Martin, Saunders (pre injury), Travis, etc, was a pretty big shift. AA is obviously smarter now after LA, but in hindsight after seeing what Atkins has done, I think even pre-LA Alex would have done as good or better had he stayed. Which is more an indictment on how disappointing Shatkins has been (especially from an analytical and player development standpoint) than longing for AA.
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