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  1. glory
    Yeah this feels a lot like the 2009 and 2017 seasons. Very boring team, boring farm system, and we can’t really look forward to anything without massive changes which may or may not happen (it did happen in 2009 with AA and the 2010 retool/rebuild, not so much in 2017-18). There’s practically no chance this team does anything at the deadline except trade impending FAs, so the rest of the season will playing out the string with a core that has 1 year left on it. The worst thing about the 2023 identify shift is that Atkins just brought in boring white dudes. “Put your head down and act like you’ve done it before” types. A bunch of Grichuk’s personality wise. The Phillies give ice cooler baths every post game and everyone loves it, but Vlad does it and his teammates look like they want to kill him. The vibes suck. Just a boring product in every possible way.
  2. glory
    I like how the Jays were down 9-2 but JS still let Bo and Varsho hit in the 9th rather than letting Jimenez and Berroa get plate appearances. The 2nd half of the season without any meaningful trades to free up playing time is going to feel like an eternity.
  3. glory
    High leverage Zach Pop going to bring this team a top 5 pick.
  4. glory
    The D-Backs traded him at the perfect time. I don't think he'll have as much value if traded now. Offense looks below average or average at best, and he's great defensively. That will have value as a ~3 WAR OF, but not sure any team is trading top prospects for 2 non-cheap years of that. Might as well just hold him, especially if the intention is to contend in 2025 (as questionable as that direction might be given the talent level on the roster).
  5. glory
    His AAV over the next 2 seasons for what he is won’t be awful but those player options in 2027-28 are going to be really bad ($24m per with incentives tied to innings which is the one thing he does well so it’s only going to up). If Atkins is fired and someone like Click takes over, then I could definitely see Berrios being shopped in the winter. Whether he’d have any market at all with that contract is the question.
  6. glory
    Jimenez won’t play SS as long as Bo is on the team (hell, Jimenez may not play at all knowing JS). Only a few more weeks of the vetrins playing and then hopefully there’s some changes in Aug/Sept. Whether Jimenez, Horwitz, DS, Barger, and eventually Orelvis can be MLB starters remains to be seen but at least seeing all of them in the lineup regularly would be something to watch for over the final two months of this dreadful season.
  7. glory
    The Astros are going to win the West again. Was hoping they'd have a down year and let someone else win it for once. I don't believe in the Mariners offense to maintain 1st place.
  8. glory
    .245 xwOBA is disgusting. Didn’t realize his expected stats were that bad. Playing him in LF is insane given what his bat is even in a best case scenario (league average).
  9. glory
    I can’t imagine Kikuchi, Garcia, Jansen, Turner, KK, and Richards is going to lead to enough talent coming back to mean anything, but hopefully there’s a Teoscar in one of those returns. But yeah, at the absolute minimum, trade the impending FAs and reset the luxury tax penalties. This team isn’t it. Move on. A Bichette trade would be good too (low performance and all) but I’m not getting my hopes up.
  10. glory
    Anyone who thinks this team is going on any rebuild, much less one that is intentionally greater than 3 years in length, is going to be disappointed. The last time Rogers was ok with an intentional tank was 2019 when they were literally forced to due to how bad the team was, and then right after that season ended they went and got Ryu and others in an effort to become respectable and/or expedite being competitive. They are not going nuclear and trading Vlad, Bo, Gausman, etc, to hit rock bottom. Maybe that's the smart baseball decision to concede the next 3+ years and sell assets now, but it's not the way Rogers is going to operate. If Vlad wants no part of an extension, then I do think trading him has to be done, but if he's open to it, then I get the sense he'll get an extension that will make posters here squirm when they see the final number.
  11. glory
    Yeah that’s my thinking as well. The Jays will eventually cave and extend him to a deal that’s likely more money/term than they want to give him. More of a Rogers call than Shapiro/Atkins.
  12. glory
    IKF leads the team in WAR on June 29. If you told me before the season that Vlad would have a 140 wRC+ and IKF would have a 2 WAR heading into July, I would have felt pretty good about where the team was in the standings. Crazy how much bad happened this season, some expected, and some not expected.
  13. glory
    I'm really curious what his trade value is at this point. A wRC+ around 140, with recent performance being excellent. Only 25 years old with another year of control after this one. Reputation greater than his performance at this point but still considered a big star in the league. If the team can't find a way to get him extended, or he doesn't want to be extended, then at the very least he's probably increased his trade value to the point of getting something good back. I know Houston was mentioned as a team interested in him, but Seattle makes a lot more sense to me.
  14. glory
    It's crazy that we all knew that Mayza was in trouble out of ST with decreased velocity and generally looking awful, and yet he's still in the pen heading into July. Kinda hope he stays all season. Halladay's 2000 ERA might be in jeopardy.
  15. glory
    Pearson being a s***** reliever is so disappointing. I thought as a short reliever he’d finally breakout. Furthest thing from reality.
  16. glory
    I want the Jays to extend Vlad, but obviously it takes two to tango, so if he's not ready to put pen to paper or wants to test free agency, then you have to consider moving him too.
  17. glory
    From Mr. Arson Judge:
  18. glory
    Worst part of the Varsho trade was putting him in LF for two years. You don’t pay a premium on defense only to use it in a much less important position. You wouldn’t trade your best prospect for prime Andrelton Simmons to put him at 2B/3B. Other than that, I’m surprised this trade is still a talking point.
  19. glory
    Definitely on the extend Vlad/trade Bo train. I think the front office will eventually reach this position as well if they haven’t already.
  20. glory
    This is what the end of a GM tenure looks like. No way Atkins survives this, if that wasn't obvious already. He's lost the room.
  21. glory
    Bo waiting for that trade.
  22. glory
    Yeah I think 8/200 is fine. He's already getting $20m coming off a 1 WAR season, and will likely get at least $25m in 2025 via arbitration, so that type of contract isn't completely unreasonable from the Jays standpoint given his age/upside. If Vlad is looking for a higher AAV or more total dollars, then that's where it gets complicated.
  23. glory
    The Jays outbidding the Yankees and Steve Cohen is a pipe dream.
  24. glory
    Plus, I'm not sure how good of a prospect Jimenez really is, but the fact that they have a SS in the minors with a 140 wRC+ and allegedly good defense (who also needs to be on the 26 man roster next season as he's out of options after 2024) should make trading Bichette a bit easier. Worst case they can stick IKF there for a year (and/or Clement if they remember he exists) as they reassess the position if playing a prospect terrifies them as much as it has over the past 12 months. I'm terrified of Atkins making that trade, but if his hands are more tied now due to his impending departure (best case), then someone else within the org (or Shapiro himself) can take the lead on a trade of that magnitude. If they wait until the winter, then there's a strong chance Bo will be starting SS to start 2025.
  25. glory
    The only issue with trading him in the winter is that Adames and Kim are free agents. A team would have to weigh giving up prospects for 1 year of Bo versus just signing a 3+ WAR SS with better defense and losing nothing. That’s why I said before trading Bo prior to 2024 when the best FA SS was a washed Tim Anderson would have made more sense but whatever. I think the deadline is the time to move him. Take the best offer you can get.
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