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  1. I think they are waiting on Jose. If they sign two OF's and then Jose is still without a job by the time spring starts, then they might see the pick starting to slip away. I'd be shocked if Bats isn't signed by some team next month, but that might be the shoe to drop before we see some movement.
  2. Having both Morales and Edwin on the roster never made any sense. So while signing Morales did not rule out re-signing EE, it definitely made it less desirable.
  3. As mentioned Moss had one terrible month (Sept) with a really low BABIP. Unless it was related to some kind of injury that I'm not aware of, I'll chalk it up to some bad luck. If platooned, he would be a fine option, though I don't want him and Smoak in the same lineup. I mean I don't want Smoak in any lineup, but you get my point. If they could add another OF that doesn't need to be platooned in addition to Moss, and then play Pearce everyday at first, I'd be fine with that.
  4. Yeah, Moss grades out average in the outfield corners but he's a butcher at first, for some reason. I'd be fine with him. Hits loads of flyballs and good hard contact rate. Might bump his HR totals playing at RC. Hell they could probably sign Moss and Valbuena for the same cost as the QO.
  5. I like Valbuena especially since he gives the team a legit 3B option if Donaldson has to rest or miss time that isn't Barney or Goins. Definitely adds to the versatility. Would make having Smoak on the roster completely pointless though, if it isn't already.
  6. Well, they gave up the 11th pick in the 1st round so they could pay $70m to first baseman Ian Desmond. Incredibly stupid seems pretty accurate regardless.
  7. He still has 3/60 left from ages 34-36, though. The first two years he made 2/22. McCann had 2/34 left on his deal and the Yankees had to chip in $11m when trading him. Martin is not a movable piece, which was my point.
  8. Signing Happ, Estrada, Morales, Pearce, and Guirrel count as spending on free agents. They won't spend more money than they are comfortable spending, which might take them out of the running on players like Fowler when other teams offer 5 or more years, but who the hell wants Fowler for five+ years? I thought Martin was a good signing and the Jays couldn't give him away for free at this point with 3/60 left on his deal. Free agent contracts more often than not suck to the high heavens, especially when the player is on the wrong side of 30. On a 2-3 year deal you could live with it, and I would have lived with Edwin for that amount of years, but they moved on before his market crashed. Stuff happens. Spending that much money on two DH's wouldn't make any sense. Once they signed Morales, it was a wrap for Edwin.
  9. Edwin and Pearce would have cost $10m more than Morales/Pearce, so it might have impacted who they could have gotten for the outfield. That remains to be seen since they haven't fixed those holes yet.
  10. Yeah if it was really 4/80 with an option to bring it up to 5/100, then that would be a foolish thing to offer to someone you didn't want to bring back, even if you felt he would turn it down. I think more likely they knew they'd get outbid but gave him their best offer anyway in case he wanted to sign. When he didn't, they moved on quickly. Morales, Pearce, Guirrel, and a pick instead of Edwin is fine with me.
  11. Probably a combination of sentiment and ignoring aging patterns of players like Encarnacion. The Jays had Edwin at his peak from 2012-16. The Edwin that plays in Cleveland over the next three years is not going to resemble the player from 2012-16 in all likelyhood. When you pay for past performance, you end up with situations like Tulowitzki having $80m left on his deal and Martin having $60m left on his deal when both are heading towards their declines. I would not have minded EE back on a three year deal, but chances are he would have joined the other $20m a year guys as declining vets making big money when the direction Shapiro wants to take is more reasonable short-term risks. EE would have been a 10/5 player too so not exactly a tradeable asset if things went south for the team.
  12. Those bandwagon fans got over losing David Price after a winter of crying once the team played well. Same deal here. If JB and EE were re-signed and the Jays fell off in 2017, those fans wouldn't be there to support the team. Shapiro doesn't care about those fans, nor should he. THose are the easiest fans to get back, if anything.
  13. There's not a single thing Shapiro has done that suggests he wants to rebuild. He's added nothing but 30+ year old's to the roster except for Guirrel. He's trying to compete and restock the farm at the same time.
  14. Man there is no way in hell Cleveland is paying Edwin $25m at age 37. It's a 3 year deal folks. No way that option is picked up. Good for Edwin. Got a reasonable deal from a team that should be the AL Central winner in 2017. Both sides are probably happy with how it played out.
  15. That's my take as well. Chances are he sees the writing on the wall that he'll need to settle for a much smaller deal than he anticipated, and wants to plant the seeds of loyalty to save face. Which is fine, that's his prerogative, but whether the Jays would sign him to that smaller deal is the question. Losing a pick for one year of Jose seems kind of pointless. As mentioned it would have to be something like 1 guaranteed year with 1 or 2 team options. That's the only way I can see Shapiro doing it.
  16. Morosi going to hashtag BlueJays until a move actually happens.
  17. Granderson makes sense. Put him in RF and platoon him with Upton. However, if the Mets want an actual prospect, then that's probably the hurdle.
  18. Man, if JB/EE end up in Oakland and Tampa due to lack of other options, that would actually be pretty sad.
  19. Just take Bastardo from the Pirates for nothing. At least it would be a one year commitment. The Pirates would probably love to get rid of $6.5m of salary.
  20. Trollosi hashtagging the Jays again while reporting nothing. Dude knows how to get eyeballs at least.
  21. Atkins and Shapiro only make moves on Friday. The Pearce signing was an aberration.
  22. Yeah at this point just having the roster spot for someone with more value to the team would be an asset. Swap him for a reliever who had a bad season ,or maybe there's an overpaid OF that the Jays can take from another team and use Smoak as a salary dump. I get the sense that the front office likes him though. They wouldn't have extended him if they didn't.
  23. There has to be a team out there that needs 1B depth and has a crappy reliever making somewhere between $4-8m. Just make the swap. Smoak for Jason Motte, or something. Whatever.
  24. Well if there's one positive to Gibbons, it's that he seems to hate Smoak as much as the rest of us, so that platoon idea may not last long. It better not.
  25. They offered Edwin 4/80 before free agency even began and were in on Fowler. Both would have cost picks. They may not want to lose a pick for Joey Bats, but they clearly don't mind losing one for the right players. In this case, both the players they were willing to lose one for decided to decline the offers.
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