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  1. In that same vein, how about Josh Harrison? Pirates apparently want to move him. The Jays need a 2B when Travis misses half the year, and Harrison has played some OF, 3B, etc, as well. Could be a versatile option.
  2. The qualifying offer is killing Jose's value. If the Jays move on, then he'll be settling for a short deal somewhere else.
  3. I heard Morales and Pearce hate the front office, too.
  4. I don't know. They were willing to lose a pick for Fowler. Sure they'll gladly take 3 picks in the 1st round, but if Bautista is signable and clearly the best player they can realistically get within budget, then they might be willing to sacrifice one of those picks as long as the terms make sense. He's still a projected 3 war player next season so the upgrade would be there. Of course, there might be bad blood on both sides, and I could be Jose being the type whose ego would get in the way of certain things. I still see it happening if they can't sign/trade for a better alternative.
  5. Yeah I think it's only a matter of time now.
  6. Why? Hits rhp, average defender in the outfield, won't cost much for what he is. Seems like a solid fit. Can't be hung up on strike outs when there is a talent deficiency. He fills a need.
  7. The Jays chose Morales over Edwin once EE rejected their offer. It's over guys. Let's move on.
  8. Five years and a NTC? Wow.
  9. Getting an unearned contract and banging Pillar's wife? Smoak loving life.
  10. Wouldn't surprise me. Although if they signed Revere and Moss instead, then I would have guessed right on four free agents in the prediction thread (already got Pearce and Morales). Not that I find that important or anything.........
  11. I hope Trout is not available. He will just end up going to the Red Sox. Keep his ass in LA.
  12. The Royals have Gordon, Cain, and Soler in the outfield. Can't imagine it would take a bunch to get Dyson but probably at least one good prospect. Or maybe they'd want MLB help, in which case the Jays might be a bad trading partner. I just want Dyson on the team. Fits the Jays needs and is mad underrated. There has to be a way.
  13. I like how the Jays offered Edwin a contract that apparently no other team is willing to give him a month later and that was an example of the Jays being cheap. Oh wait, they knew he'd turn it down, so they offered him $20 f***ing million a year to a DH in his mid-30's as a token offer. Sounds about right. The other argument is the Jays need to worry about short-term....but that was the whole point of signing Morales and Pearce. Those guys are in their 30's. They surely were not signed for some long-term plan. You can disagree with signing them from a talent standpoint, but the goal is exactly the same. Free agents are free to sign wherever they want. Some go for the money, some go for the destination, some go for the environment, some go for the chance to win, etc. The Jays made offers to two key free agents and one was beaten substantially (Fowler) and we'll see with the other one (EE). That's free agency. If you don't get your guy at the price you want, then you move on. That's what happened here.
  14. Exactly. This is year 2 of the Shapiro regime, and they still don't have a single pitching prospect in AAA. They only have one prospect pegged to start in AAA at all and that's Tellez. When you have an old roster and nothing close in the farm system, it's going to be hard to sustain a winning roster. The Jays still have a chance since the pitching projects to be pretty good and they still have Donaldson and a few others who should provide solid value, but expecting them to not skip a beat based on the way the roster was constructed was foolish. Shapiro is essentially trying to prolong the playoff appearances as much as he can without doubling down on the old regime's short-term mindset. It worked in 2016. Still enough time to fix holes and get it to work in 2017.
  15. They also made a 4/80 offer to Edwin which was turned down, and a 4/60 offer to Fowler which was apparently trumped big time by the Cardinals. Lots of off-season to go. Although, I get a sense the buzz around the Jays in the next few months will resemble the Sportsnet comment section, and that's going to be mad annoying.
  16. Transcribing what Shapiro said on Tim and Sid: "I tend to believe that the best work done in an off-season is we need to internally frame what our values are, understand what we think are acceptable in years, understand what we think the right price is whether it's trades or free agency, and have that in our minds when we head in. If you don't do that, you're apt to get carried away and those are the deals you end up regretting whether they are trades or free agents". Jays made an offer they felt Fowler was worth, wouldn't budge on it, and the Cardinals blew it away. That's likely what happened.
  17. That was Retweeted by Rosenthal, so looks legit. As far as other OF options, I'm going to say this until someone from the Jays front office reads it and actually listens to me. Jarrod f'n Dyson. Then sign Bautista. You figure between Pillar and Dyson in the OF they can live with a pylon in right or left (wherever they play Jose). Make it happen dammit.
  18. It will be Jose. s*** defence in right again but should be motivated after being embarrassed during free agency.
  19. Combine that, with this: ...and maybe the Jays have a shot. Come on Stroman, make that sales pitch.
  20. I don't remember the quote but Shapiro was on Tim and Sid yesterday and alluded to how important it is to go into the off season with internal evaluations of market value and not going over it. I think they will stick with 4/60 and either lose him to the Cards or get him at that price.
  21. Yep. Only reason to circle back to Bautista is lack of other options. If Fowler goes to the Cardinals, then Bats and his bruised ego are probably staying in Toronto.
  22. Sounds about right. If money is equal, he'll go elsewhere and stay in CF. Jays are going to have to bump their offer up.
  23. Biagini is not going to be stretched out? I thought that was the plan. I think Sparkman (if he doesn't look like dog s*** in spring training) and Bolsinger will make the team. Osuna and Grilli are obviously locks. If Biagini is staying in the pen, then he's a lock as well. Loup should win a spot if they don't acquire another lefty in free agency. If they do then he might be on the bubble with options remaining. Really anyone with options will probably be sent down for depth purposes.
  24. Bautista is going to show up to spring training fat as hell with the amount of humble pie he has been eating this off-season.
  25. From my recollection, Rogers asked a Yankees executive for advise on who to hire, and the Yankees guy gave the names of Duquette and Kenny Williams. Then Rogers tampered when trying to talk to both of them. In other words, the Yankees guy suggested two terrible names, Rogers took it seriously, and illegally tried to make a deal with them. Lucked into Shapiro would be understatement. It was a gift from the Heavens.
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