glory
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That MLBTR figure was way too small to begin with. Barney made $2.5m in 2015. It wasn't going to be lower than that.
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Just to be clear, I loved the off-season AA had in 2015 (Donaldson, Travis, Martin, Saunders, etc). I hated 2013-14, and was kind of indifferent to 2010-12 since he was all over the place but at least seemed to have a long-term plan. Where 2015 went to mush was when Stro got hurt and since AA never accumulated any depth it lead to derpy moves left and right until he doubled down mid season. I'm sorry, as nice as those two playoff appearances were (one of which he wasn't even around for), I'm not going to look past how he got there. I want a team that wins every year, or at least has a chance to. Not one that makes the playoffs once and then the GM leaves as a hero so he doesn't have to deal with the backloaded aftermath and detonated upper minors that he created/left behind. Shapiro coming in saved the org.
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So let's trade more prospects for Votto then, so that kids everywhere (the same ones who will tune out the moment the team gets old and sucks) can have a memory for a year.
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Well that was probably too strong. I dislike Alex as a GM but the fan worship the guy has from bandwagon Jays fans turns it into hate for me. The way he built the team in 2013-15 you would think he was as old as Mike Ilitch.
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Yeah I hate AA with a passion but that 2015 team should have won the World Series. The playoffs in baseball are a crap shoot and the Jays fell victim to the BABIP overlords known as the Royals.
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Tanaka can opt out after this coming season, right? Can't see him doing it now. Should have done it last year.
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You can tell Jays fans miss AA. A player who used to be good, making $20mm a year, has no trade value? Prove em wrong, Alex.
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Rasmus signed for 1/5 and Plouffe signed for 1/5. No reason why the Jays couldn't afford two of Moss, Valbuena, Pagan, whoever. They could probably afford Bautista and one of those other guys depending on how much money they have left.
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I actually hope the reason for signing Smoak was because they see something in his numbers or swing or something that indicates they think he can breakout. Even if they are wrong in that case, at least they'd have some logic behind it. Signing him because they wanted a warm body at first is a pretty bad reason for an extension. Still, if that's their worst move, and it looks like it is so far, then that's not bad at all.
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Agreed. A complete waste of time for the sake of manufactured patriotism. Just let the players do spring training with their teams and worry about the season, not some meaningless exhibition games.
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The Smoak extension was awful at the time, and looks about 100 times worse now. If he were a free agent right now he'd get a minor league deal at best. That's pretty bad.
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I can see both sides. Jose could put up a 3 WAR season and help the Jays possibly get to the playoff picture again, so there's definitely value in that. I just think with the value of the pick being what it is that it makes more sense to go for a longer term, but then again, the longer term is less desirable for the team because of his age. That's why tacking on a team option would be the deal breaker for me. If it's a straight one year deal, and the cost is $17mm plus whatever you want to value the comp pick at ($8-10mm), that's a pretty sizable investment for a 36 year old with no D value.
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Losing a pick for a one year player, especially when you can't recoup that pick next year due to the CBA change, is pretty significant. Unless Bautista is signing for Nelson Cruz 2014 money on a one year deal (factoring for inflation), which his ego won't allow him to, I'm not that interested. If it's one year + a team option or two, then we're talking.
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Colby seemed miserable in Toronto so I doubt he would have considered it. If Moss gets 1/8 or something like that, then that wouldn't be a bad option.
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Wow that's a good deal for the Rays. If that's how cheap the OF market is going to be, that's a good sign for the Jays.
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My money is on Oakland. They offered a two year deal to Edwin. They could get Bautista cheaper with the same term probably.
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At age 36? I doubt he'd sit out. Does he expect teams to give him more money at age 37 next year after sitting out half the season? He might as well take the best multi year deal he can get and just accept it. Or take the best one year deal he can get and go back on the market next year with a full season under his belt.
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General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
glory replied to reedjohnsonfan's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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He would have a NTC (10/5 rights) if he signed with the Jays. Not that easy.
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Smoak for Bruce would be a good deal. At least Bruce can actually hit RHP.
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Estrada is a free agent after 2017 just like the rest of their team. I doubt they would have done that. If the Jays still had Hutchison, that probably would have been the type of pitcher they would have went for (think he has 3 years of control left, while Karns has 4).
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Puig is 26 with three years of cheap control left (well, two years of cheap control and one year of arb after that). THat wouldn't be adding to an aging core, that would be giving the Jays a young hitter with upside. I agree that they won't be trading prospects for short-term gain, though.
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Yep, trade for Puig and sign someone like Moss. I'd be fine with that. Don't know what the Dodgers would want for Puig, though. Maybe more than what the Jays would be willing to give.
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Dammit, Dyson would have been a great fit for the Jays. Oh well.
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After 2015 and 2016, there's really no way the Jays can take a step back (at least on purpose) so trying to put a competitive team on the field while building up the farm system is the only alternative. AA created a one and a half year window. Thankfully Shaps took over when he did because he should be able to salvage this without watching the team turn into Ruben Amaro's Phillies like it would have if AA was still here trading prospects for Joey Votto while re-signing Edwin and Jose.