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  1. glory
    Agreed, this is terrible for the game. It's been 3 weeks into the off season and two relievers have signed (both with the Braves). That's it. Nothing else appears to be imminent (no rumors or anything). Plus most of the top FA's are connected to Boras, so lord knows when the first domino drops. It could be months from now.
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    Wells seems like a good dude so happy for him but man, every time I read his name it reminds me of how s***** and unmemorable the 2000's were for the Jays. As much as I rag on AA for his short sighted trades, I'm so glad that 2015-16 happened to wipe out so much irrelevancy from my memory. As great as Doc was he was pitching for teams that never sniffed the playoffs. Other than him and the first half of the 2000's with Delgado, it was a pretty brutal decade for the Jays from pretty much all angles. Even the uniforms sucked.
  3. glory

    NBA Thread

    glory replied to admin's topic in Other Sports

    Even if a team offers a player with an additional year (expiring after 2020-21), they'll take it for Powell. They want to have a shot, even if it's a shot in the dark, at Giannis. Powell's deal is through 2021-22, which eats into the cap space for Giannis. They'd trade Powell in a second for anyone who expires a year before he does. Even if it's Redick's corpse, they'd do it. Don't think Masai will trade another pick, though. At least not to get rid of Powell. If it's for a real upgrade, then maybe, but even then we will need some cheap players on the roster two years from now if that cap space is going to come in handy.
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    They won't be in on Cole or Rendon, but my point was for where the Jays are right now, they need elite talent any way they can get it. If you're going to lose a pick, then lose it on an elite player. Not Odorizzi types. The one thing we know Atkins/his scouts can do at an elite level is draft. Don't mess with that just for a rotation improvement. Do it for a core player. MLBTR is predicting Ryu getting 3/54 and Keuchel getting 3/39 (probably on the low side there). Neither one costs a pick and would instantly upgrade the rotation just as much if not more than Odorizzi would have. Go for deals like that if you're avoiding the elite players. All it costs is money and the Jays have it to spend. Probably need to tack on an extra year or more AAV but I'm sure they have a threshold for what they consider to be reasonable.
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    For those asking what the big deal is about losing a pick:
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    That's the way I see it. If we're going to lose a pick, go big. Go after Cole. Go after Rendon. Wheeler would be fine too on the less expensive end since he has the velocity and performance of a front end starter when healthy. He also didn't have 14 of his 30 starts against the AL Central in 2019 like Odorizzi did either. There has to be some level of expectation when signing a qualified FA. It can't be "this guy can help us in the next 3 years". It has to be "this guy is going to be one of the best players on our next competitive team" type of signings, and Odorizzi doesn't inspire that type of confidence in me. Not after one 4 win season and a history prior to that of 2ish war performance.
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    NBA Thread

    glory replied to admin's topic in Other Sports

    The Raptors are basically what the Spurs used to be. Find talent from practically anywhere, integrate them into the org, develop them, and watch them overachieve. Rinse and repeat. If Kawhi stayed we’d be looking at a 5 year run of title contention. Masai needs to be extended for life. Can’t believe I root for a team this well run.
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    Teams higher on the win curve than the Jays have avoided qualified free agents who could have added more meaningful wins to their teams. The value of a lost pick is significant to practically every team in the league, which is why you’ll see some players either accept the QO or possibly have to re-sign with their teams for less because no other teams want to pony up + lose a pick. Odorizzi would be the team’s best starter by a landslide if he was signed but that doesn’t mean he’s worth losing a pick for. Depends on cost and what else is out there that wouldn’t require a lost pick.
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    How is it nonsensical when qualified players are either not getting good deals in free agency or are waiting until June to sign the past few years?
  10. glory
    Dave Stewart doesn't count.
  11. glory
    I wouldn't be against trading Jansen, but trading him now might be selling low. However if you can get a capable big league starter in return for him right now, and then sign a catcher to partner with McGuire short term, that may not be a bad idea depending on the pitcher the Jays get back. If they trade Jansen and we have to witness McGuire/Maile all season, then I retract what I said as that would be pretty bad. Trade Jansen and signing Grandal would be much better.
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    The only benefit to a potential Odorizzi signing is that the QO might scare teams off and the Jays could get him at a discounted price. Other than that I just feel like if we're finally going to sign a qualified FA it should be a chance at a home run. Wheeler is a potential home run. Odorizzi just seems really underwhelming when it comes at the cost of a pick and losing international money.
  13. glory
    Trade Jansen for pitching and sign a stopgap catcher to kill time until the Moreno/Kirk two headed monster show up?
  14. glory
    If we are going to lose a pick, and won’t be in on Cole/Strasburg, then Wheeler is the only pitcher I’d be ok with. Not Odorizzi.
  15. glory
    There's a pretty big difference between steroids and protein powder/creatine/vitamins, without even factoring the legality of it all.
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    Conine in the top 10 is gross.
  17. glory
    Yeah, the Astros being cheaters is the least surprising baseball news ever.
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    Akiyama makes more sense for the Jays. Apparently can play CF, is LH, and is a high OBP player. I read someone use Nori Aoki as a possible comp and that would be pretty good if he can handle CF.
  20. glory
    Agreed. There are a surplus of #3 level starters available in free agency. They won’t be cheap, but cost should be reasonable, and they’ll only cost money (not picks or players) which the Jays have to spend. Sign two of them and keep your best outfielder at the same time. Seems like a better strategy. No one is trading a young ace for Gurriel, so if we’d be getting back a cheap/young #3 starter, then keep Gurriel and just sign a veteran #3 caliber starter like Keuchel (for example). Seems more logical and less risky (young pitching prospects are dangerous to trade for).
  21. glory
    Maybe I'm more bullish on Gurriel than others, but I can see a 120-130 wRC+ bat in there. Only thing that might hold him back is lack of walks but he improved last season in that area. Statcast numbers suggest he's not fluking his way to good numbers. I mean if a team is offering a great package for him, then obviously you pay attention, but given his years of control and salary, I think he's closer to a core piece than he is an expendable one. The one downside is he appears to be injury prone. If the team determines that's going to continue going forward then maybe a trade makes more sense now (selling high).
  22. glory
    Don’t think there’s a chance in hell they move Gurriel. He makes nothing, he’s the only OF on the team who can hit, his statcast numbers are good, and no one internally is pushing to take over LF. Would make no sense. Obviously if they get an amazing return then it’s worth looking into, but I don’t see it.
  23. glory
    It depends on what the premium is. I don't think I'd go four years given his age + health history, but a high AAV on a 3 year deal would be perfectly reasonable, IMO. Or a vesting option for the 4th year based on health/innings. The other alternative would be to sign multiple middle tier starters who are a solid bet for a 2+ war (Keuchel, Gibson, Porcello types). You get more stability that way and less risk, but less upside/talent as well. Wheeler would be good too in isolation, but I just see the QO as something Shatkins would not want to mess around with. We are talking about overpaying a free agent, losing a high 2nd round pick (+ the draft pool that comes with it), and $500k in intl money. If the Jays don't feel they are one player away, and are coming off a season where they intentionally tanked, then giving all that up for a rotation upgrade makes little sense. The only exception would be if they signed Cole, which seems highly unlikely.
  24. glory
    I don't think a team that just spent an entire season tanking on purpose is going to want to lose a (high) 2nd round pick and $500k from their international draft pool. If it's for Cole, then sure, but I don't think they do that for anyone else. Ryu makes a lot of sense. Ceiling/performance of a top of the rotation starter, risky due to age/injury so years will be limited, and won't cost a pick/intl money.
  25. glory
    Yeah, I feel like paying Chase Anderson 1/9 (or 2/18 if option is picked up) before the off season even started is a sign that they'll spend a ton this winter. Well, a "ton" by Jays and today's MLB standards. You don't make that type of move this early if you're going to be frugal.
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