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  1. glory

    NBA Thread

    I don't see this as a hot take, but I think we are going to look back at this trade deadline as a defining moment for the Raptors over the next 5 years, and not in a good way. A team that was practically begging for a rebuild/retool gets this instead. They still have their 2023 pick, but that 2024 pick has very limited protection, so a 2024 tank doesn't look likely, and all of FVV/Trent/Poeltl are free agents after this season, so the Raptors will basically have to be a tax team to keep this same group together + a 2023 pick that will be closer to middle of the pack than top 5 in all likelihood. Even if this team makes a run, it's likely going to be the play in tournament for the right to see who gets to have their asses handed to them by Milwaukee or Boston in the first round. Not fun.
  2. My guess is it is a 3 year deal so that his arbitration years are covered and they don’t have to go through the whole song and dance for another 2 years after this one. If it’s a deal that extends to his FA years, then I’d be shocked.
  3. This is definitely being done to bring stolen bases back into the game. Obviously improving the pace of play is a big factor as well, but steals have basically been eliminated from the game now and it's one of the more exciting plays in baseball. Pinch runners are going to have a lot more value now, and a catcher's ability to throw is going to become a lot more valuable as well.
  4. Manoah is coming off a top 3 Cy Young season and he has a career scrub telling him to hit the gym on MLB's main network. I could understand why he'd be annoyed. If it was Pedro Martinez saying that, then Manoah's reaction probably would have been different.
  5. Excessive pick off attempts do slow the pace of the game down a lot, so I'm glad that has been capped, but man it's going to be strange to see how it looks in reality. Between that and the pitch clock, some pitchers are in for a rude awakening this season.
  6. The Werth for Frasor trade was so irritating back then. If I recall, coming off his big 2003 season, the Jays saw Reed Johnson as a starting OF for 2004, so the expectation was to have a Cat/Wells/Johnson OF. Obviously, that meant Cat needed a platoon partner, but instead of keeping Werth and using him in that role, they trade him for Frasor and have Simon Pond (a LHB) as the backup OF. It looks worse in hindsight knowing what Werth turned into, but such a horrible use of assets by JP. Reading this thread and being reminded of the Ash and JP years has officially depressed me. Those of us who lived through it and are still here deserve a lot of credit.
  7. Varsho with a 132 wRC+ is one of the best players in baseball. Would love to see it happen, but I'll take the under on that one.
  8. Ohtani might be an exception: Once he becomes a free agent and signs a $500m+ contract (assuming he stays healthy), his brand value is only going to grow, especially since it appears he's either going to be Steve Cohen's next piece of art or a Dodger, and those two competing with each other is only going to drive his price up. The only other NBA star with New Balance is Kawhi (I think), and while Kawhi is a big star in the NBA, he's not the household name that other NBA stars are (LeBron, Curry, KD, etc). Wouldn't shock me if Ohtani's deal with NB is close to Kawhi's, but I don't think the numbers are out yet.
  9. I think Green could accept it if he doesn't pitch much (or at all) in 2023, but yeah with the way the market is today for relievers, he'd probably be able to get that ($6.25m) guarantee or very close to it regardless if he were a FA (assuming he is healthy). Likely just a cushion in case he's hurt. As others have mentioned, it's going to be interesting what the Jays do with their options. 3/27 is better than 2/21 for the team ($1.5m less on the lux tax payroll), so I can't imagine the Jays preferring the 2/21 over the 3/27. Best case scenario is Green looks like the Green of 2017-21 and they probably accept the 3/27. Atkins usually doesn't spend on relievers but getting a RP with Green's performance/upside might change that.
  10. I guess it plays out like this: 2023: Green gets $2.25m guaranteed. After the season ends, the Jays get a team option for 3/27 that covers 2024-26. If they decline that, then Green has a player option for 2024 at $6.25m. If that's also declined, then the Jays get a 2/21 team option that covers 2024-25. Pretty convoluted. I'd say the most likely scenario is the Jays turning down the 3/27 option and Green exercising the 2024 player option, but a lot will depend on how Green does in 2023, if he pitches at all. I would think a reliever would be more likely to contribute coming off TJS than a SP like Ryu, so it wouldn't shock me if he shows up in Aug/Sept.
  11. If those 2025-26 options are team options then great move.
  12. Didn't Ryu after TJS in June? Unless the recovery period has drastically improved over the years, I'd be pretty surprised if he was back by mid season, much less pitching well enough to actually help the team down the stretch. I think 2023 will be a write off for him, but I guess we will see.
  13. Really hoping Brown can hit even a little bit as he moves up. A Kiermaier or Jarrod Dyson (probably could have started on some teams during his peak) type of career path would be a huge positive.
  14. Yeah there is still a lot of red on Barlow's Savant page, including 89th percentile for whiff % and 97th percentile for chase rate last season. Velocity dip seems pretty significant though.
  15. Man, Jays fans should be thankful that we have Shapiro and Atkins. Bloom is not only terrible at being a GM, but that whole 4 minute clip was embarrassing/uncomfortable. The Red Sox are going to pay Story and Yoshida $220m over the next 5 years (counting the posting fee), while Betts will get $265m from the Dodgers over the next 10 with a lot of that deferred, and this clown is trying to rationalize that as a positive. Bloom's job security is good for the Jays, I guess.
  16. I guess Jays fans can no longer complain about Yankee Stadium home runs anymore.
  17. I was going to suggest Espinal and Otto Lopez for Chisholm, but Sandy works too.
  18. I think I'd be fine with a 11-12 year deal for Vlad, even acknowledging the weight issues and possibility for some dead money towards the end. He had a 132 wRC+ at age 23 in a down year. We all know what the ceiling is. Seems like a worthwhile gamble to take. Maybe a 11/285.5m extension would work. Once you add his 2023 arb figure it comes out to 12/300, so it's a round enough number for Vlad, and it's $25-26m AAV from 25-35, so it wouldn't be like Pujols or Cabrera where you're running him out there in his late-30's/40's. I'm guessing he would sign a deal like that. Whether the Jays would offer it, I have no idea, but that's probably what it takes to get it done.
  19. The bright spot for the Twins is that they are in the Central so they have a shot at the division by virtue of how mid the division is. Of course now there is a balanced schedule, and the Guardians are probably still better than them. Division still gives them a shot though. Not exactly sure what the Marlins are doing.
  20. For luxury tax purposes, any Vlad extension should begin in 2024 so it doesn't impact 2023 lux tax payroll, so now that his 2023 arb figure is taken care of, maybe they will start the extension talks.
  21. Yeah they have two players with 5-6 years of control left who already project to have as good (slightly better) a combined WAR next season as Vlad and Bo (Adley/Gunnar). They absolutely should have spent on pitching. Maybe they tried and failed (as mentioned it takes two to tango in free agency) but only adding Kyle Gibson to a core that has 3 really good players (those two + Mullins) and more position player talent on the way just seems like a huge waste. Say what you want about Atkins, but he called up Vlad/Bo in 2019, and then it was Ryu/Roark/Anderson in 2020, Springer/Semien/Ray/Matz in 2021, Gausman/Chapman in 2022, etc. He didn't waste a single season he had Vlad/Bo under team control. Now there's only 3 seasons left, but they made the "playoffs" in 2020, just missed in 2021, made it again in 2022, and project to be one of the top 5 best teams in the league at the moment for 2023. You can't accuse them of being cheap or wasting years. The Orioles better start building soon because Adley's 2022 counted as a full year of service so that service time is going to start dwindling quickly. Next year's SP market looks very good so maybe that's when they'll spend, or at least try.
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