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Osuna is a perfect fit. Same years of control and good enough and established enough that they don't have to worry too much about what kind of upside Salazar himself would have as a reliever because they're getting a surer thing.
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I made the suggestion upthread but I later amended the suggestion because it's pretty impractical to keep them out of the rule 5 unless we also close off the player pool to minor leaguers (something I would love but also something that's never had traction here despite me beating the drum since year one).
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It's not a terrible trade on paper but if they have the same amount of control than it's just re-arranging the deck chairs in the hope that you can patch the bullpen more easily than the rotation. That makes it a bit underwhelming. And you're right that it doesn't feel like maximizing the return on Osuna. You would prefer a trade with potential benefits beyond the length of Osuna's current deal. That being said, I wouldn't entirely hate it. If for instance, the front office have reservations about Osuna going forward and think Salazar could turn the corner durability wise maybe it makes sense to shift their eggs to a different basket but they'd have to feel like they have a really good read on the future of both players to pull the trigger on something like this. It's not like the Jays front office is unfamiliar with Salazar. If they decided to place a bet on him, I would be cautiously optimistic about it but I think it's more likely that it doesn't happen.
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In that scenario, I can't really see Yahoo adding him to the player database before he hits the majors. I can't recall a scenario where Yahoo added a non major league player at any other time than during the off-season. Players they miss just hit waivers when they get called up. A sudden international signing who is immediately called up would just hit the waivers.
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The downside of changing it is that player who are already in the pool would have to be put on waivers manually when they hit the majors. The AA rule is certainly less work because players almost never make the jump from lower than that and in the rare case where they do (like Magneuris Sierra last year) they are being rushed and probably don't make for very attractive assets. So even though the Rule 5 is a lousy method of prospect acquisition, ruling it out is probably impractical unless we also change the league settings to only include major league players in the player pool (something I pushed for from day one but never got much support on). All that being said, I think the Rule 5 rules should state explicitly that minor leaguers have to be in the Yahoo database to be eligible. We don't want a free for all and we don't want teams rostering paper assets on the MLB roster. I feel like the text should more closely match how the rule is already understood.
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That's still enough for him to find employment as a starter with another team. If the Indians see more value in what good reliever could he provides as a starter is makes sense to trade him and avoid the uncertainty and pushback that might come with a transition.
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Maybe it has to do with respecting the player's own desire to start rather than relieve? I mean he is an established starter and I couldn't blame him for opposing a move to the bullpen.
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2017 BJMB poster winners (Results thread)
KingKat replied to jays4life19's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
That feels like a lifetime ago in terms of how I looked at baseball players. Wilner was considered progressive at that point. Funny how we changed and he just stayed the same, become progressively more and more of a relateive dinosaur. -
General 2018 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
KingKat replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Yes because no man has ever cheated on his wife/gf with a less conventionally attractice woman. Nope never happened ever. (I don't actually care about this story but that's just an absurd statement.) -
What about taking unowned prospects right out of the rule 5? Prospects would be worth more if they were off limits until they either hit the majors or go in the MiLB draft. The point of the AA rule was to give owners a way to deal with a crowded farm. It was never intended to flood the rule 5 with prospects. That only happened because Yahoo got liberal with the player database.
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Trammel was pretty bad but the new version of the Veteran's Committee just fixed that.
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I'm not clicking on a Bleacher Report link but doesn't it essentially come down to the Hall simply not knowing what to do with player who achieved the bulk of his production as a Colorado Rockie ?
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Cat/Kats trade: Kodi Medeiros for Toles, Rodney and Schrock.
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Rolen played what's probably the worst position for getting into the HOF. Third base is treated like an offensive position when it's a defensive one and that's why it's under-represented in the HOF. Rolen's excellent play at 3B should be valued more than Jeter's mediocre SS play but that's just not how it is.
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Can you explain this more? Why woundn't Ohtani have been eligible and what needs to be changed?
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Derek Jeter had some 6 and 7 war seasons on his resume. He at least lived up to the hype at points in his career and overall he had a legitimately great career. Hosmer's nothing special. He's the rare player who is overrated on both offense and defense. The hype hasn't reached Jeter level of irritating but I'd say it's more disconnected from reality than Jeter's hype was. The big difference is that the hype is going to crash right down when Hosmer's contract becomes an alabtross whereas Jeter will still walk on water when we're all dead.
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Wasn't Derosan drawing prime Michael Jordan comparisons just last year? How has everyone forgotten?
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This has happened before though. I'd hold off on that crow sandwich until the playoffs.
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I only got 82. Wasted a lot of time not figuring out how to spell Mr. 1967. Also I probably would have done better had I realized earlier that the teams are listed. That's a big hint.
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KingKat replied to spittin's topic in Fantasy Sports
Oh and Brian Tallet too. Lest no one forget Brian Tallet. -
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KingKat replied to spittin's topic in Fantasy Sports
Jays used to always start their starting prospects in the pen, Hentgen, Leiter, Halladay and David Wells (JimCanuck's guy). -
I think the most objective gauge of his value is how much he fetched in an open unrestricted market which ultimately wasn't that much. We all wanted to get excited and imagine that the Jays got some big steal but that seems kind of foolish in hindsight. It's probably fair to expect that it's about as likely that he's worth less than what the Jays paid for him that it is that he's worth more especially when you consider that the Jays were more desperate for talent in the high minors than other teams were.
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One of Pearce/Smoak/Morales.
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Trying to sign the bad JD they don't have as opposed to trying to extend the good JD they do have would be madness. Thankfully, there's no link provided so probably no legs to this at all.
