KingKat

Check your history. Beeston was around before AA became GM. He was interim President looking for his replacement and handling some negotiations. He's literally the one who caused the Paxton situation by leaking Boras' involvment to the media. As far as Boras is concerned, there's no reason for him to broadcast a tryst with the Jays if there is one. If nothing else, he can use hypothetical Jays interest as leverage. He certainly isn't smarting from the Paxton situation as much as Paxton himself but that doesn't mean he's keen to talk to the Jays or that the Jays are keen to talk to him. Maybe the Jays and Boras are just ships in night who just don't have a convergence of interests right now. That's not an unfair speculation but the fact remains that the last time Beeston and Boras spoke it went pretty damn poorly, Neither side got what they wanted and the player ended up having to spend a season without MLB or NCAA eligibility. At that point it was the first time in years that the Jays had taken a Boras client and there haven't been any since. Pretty easy to say when you're account of Beeston and Boras's history isn't even acurate.

It's definitely a brain trust issue with the Jays. It's not just AA, it's the combined leadership of Beeston and AA. I know a lot of people were hoping Beeston would hire Sandy Alderson to replace himself. Maybe under the tutelage of a noted progressive mind like Alderson, AA would do quite well but that's neither here nor there. We can only judge the results of AA's work under Beeston not his hypothetical work under a different president. There are no real indications that AA and Beest are at odds which each other anyways. In order to improve this team, Beest should definitely be the first to gobut that doesn't mean AA should get a pass.

That's true but you can't deny that there was a tryst between Boras and Beeston around Paxton. Maybe that's still a factor, maybe it isn't. We won't really know until the Jays sign one of his players but until then the speculation is hardly baseless.

I do agree with this sentence but if AA thought he had defensive value, there was a serious misjudging of Bonifacio's skill set. There isn't anything that Bonifacio does that Rajai Davis doesn't do better (unless you count playing terrible 2B). No one could have predicted just how badly swapping out a better defender like Aviles for Bonifacio would have backfired but it's really hard to argue it was a good idea. AA seems to have a strange infatuation with certain rather fringy players (Happ, Bonifacio, Rogers) which can't help but make you question his player valuations. I don't know if you've read Great Expectations but in it, Lott and Davidi describe conversations between Beeston and Anthopoulos where they discussed how important it was to acquire Bonifacio because he's such an exciting, entertaining player. That's not the kind of cold rational that you have been giving for the Bonifacio acquisition. Now of course, Lott and Davidi weren't actually there so maybe the conversation that actually took place and the one the principals described to them aren't the same but it certainly gives you pause. You can always give AA the benefit of the doubt but don't you feel like you have to do that a lot? There is zero indication in Great Expectations that Escobar played an important role in negotiations but there's clear indication that both Mathis and Bonifacio did. If you don't find that alarming then I guess you're just a far different Jays fan than I.

Dude, your efforts to plays devil's advocate are practically honorable but you are out to lunch. Plenty of us hated Bonifacio before he even played a game for the Jays (off the top of my head Nox, Hurl and myself). He was a garbage defender with one completely BABIP inflated outlier of a season on his resume. No one knew he would look as awful as he did but anyone who could read a Fangraphs page knew he wasn't an assett.

Especially when the reliever in question offsets a good chunk of the salary. That being said if the physical says he's not even going to start the season healthy much less finish it, it's a pass.

ftfy

How could you so calously ignore Moise Sierra?

AA insisted on Bonifacio. The Marlins insisted on Mathis. Both players held up the deal for awhile. Pretty ridiculous on both sides.

Was talking about Gose.

I wonder if he was being facetious.

Isn't Voros McCracken unemployed?

Ironically, the throw might have beat him if it wasn't dropped.

The only picks you can trade in the new system are competitive balance picks and sadly the Jays don't get those.

That's an understatement. He's actually a terrible base stealer. He gets caught stealing at an alarming rate for someone with his speed.

Presumably, Morrison has more defensive value than Lind at 1B or LF. If the return for Lind is good, it's not a bad idea. At least it gives the team the option of moving Melky to DH.

He's really a great fit for the Mariners. All that raw power in a park that cancels it out. What is Jack Z. waiting for?

Snider 2.0.

Havok, your avatar sums up my reaction.

But wouldn't you a agree that trading him for a player of equivalent value at best, who has less control and has probably already peaked is kind of pointless?

Yasiel Puig. He doesn't respect the game enough.

Well part of that can be explained by the fact that catcher's pitch framing isn't properly calculated. All the TB pitchers are getting their K/BB boosted by Molina's fine work. Not sure exactly how many wins in Price's case but it's definitely a factor. In any case even if you credit Price with an extra win that really doesn't matter because the trade hinges on future performance not past performance. If you think Price can continue to perform at such a high level with his reduced velocity and once his BB/9 regresses to something sustainable and without elite pitch framing then you have a lot more faith in him than I do and certainly a lot more faith in him than I think you should have in EE. I'm really kind of stunned that someone is trying to pre-emptively defend this potential trade. Best case scenario this is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Worst case scenario, Tampa gets out from the Price contract just when s***'s about to hit the fan (always more likely with pitchers than batters even those who didn't just experience a dramatic drop in fastball velocity).

This is probably for the best though. No one really wants to see the broken down Halladay anymore.

Better know nothing than half-know many things! - Nietzsche

A lot of the stuff that's been coming out in Seattle lately seems to suggest that Jack Z. is basically a fraud.