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Roden's first MLB stint was ROUGH. He looked overmatched and scared of striking out so he would throw his gameplan out the window and just wave at pitches and hit weak grounders to the left side. His projections have taken a small dive as well but it's enough that he's just a platoon bat. Even so, he should be able to overcome some of those rookie struggles and his defense was better than expected so he should be a solid 4th OF or platoon bat.
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Yeah that's exactly it IMO. There will probably need to be another decision when Bieber is ready in mid August. But that said, rosters expand to 28 in September so one of Schneider/Loperfido will be right back up as will the pitcher that gets sent down for Bieber.
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We need Bieber to deliver and one other guy to also step up so I get your sentiment. But I don't think Manoah has any chance in fulfilling that role. He was fringe as it was and now he's coming off TJS. He might be cooked. I think Gausman is probably our best bet followed by the rest. Bassitt could do it for a game but it's hard to see him stringing together dominant playoff starts. Scherzer looked sharp his last outing. Could he turn back the clock? Berrios is an SP4 in the playoffs at this point, and a mediocre one at that. Lauer could be a 3 inning guy? Manoah probably doesn't even make the playoff roster.
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They made some really good moves and the new bats paired with the rotation make for a scary playoff opponent. But the bench is filled with replacement level guys right now so an injury could really hurt them. I suppose Raley and Robles will be back so they figure that is good enough? The bullpen is probably missing one more fireballer too. They were as aggressive as anyone other than the Padres but they stopped just short. Still a scary team.
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When you're not frantically doom posting (90% of the time) or defaulting to juvenile "sloppy blowjob" jokes about Ross Atkins (9.99% of the time), you're actually pretty solid!
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That first Shane Bieber start is going to be so much fun
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”It’s good the guys I like more were sent down to the minors!” 😂 Even if that were true your example disproves your point. You would want the years of control so you could ride the wave of reliever volatility. Doval and Bednar sucked but because their teams had years of control over them they were able to bounce back and apparently become such good relievers in your eyes that it makes the Yankees deadline an easy winner and ours an easy loser because we didn’t get them.
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What I’m realizing is that this is all coming down to the names as much as the talent. “Never mind that Doval and Bednar have recently been demoted to the minors, they have been All-Star closers before! So they must be a lot better than SirAnthony and Varland…” When in reality they are so close in talent that you could probably just draw their names out of a hat ROS
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Yeah they needed a starting pitcher and some starting position players and instead they got some late inning relievers and platoon bats. I think Cashman knows his team is cooked this year with the Judge injury (barring any playoff luck which is possible) so he focused on guys with some control so they could reload next year with Cole coming back.
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Seriously, what pitchers did you want us to get? You seem to love the Yankees deadline and I think it is criminal what they got Bednar and Doval for but outside of that, Siranthony and Varland are right there in terms of velocity, results and projections. They also got Bird I guess, but their bullpen was a mess outside of Williams and Weaver so they needed another guy more than we did. And of course we got an SP1 and they didn't acquire a starter at all despite Cashman trying.
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You sound like Jays24 lol We added the best starter available (seriously, that is not a misprint) and two late inning relievers that throw 98 mph and you are whining that we didn't add enough to the pitching staff? Who else did you want us to get?
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Adding Bieber to our playoff rotation is huge and that alone could be bigger than pretty much everything the Yankees did in total. The one thing I will credit the Yankees with, however, is that they once again didn't have to give up jack s*** for what they got. And that includes the two good hard throwing relievers who they got for free. So I think we got better than they did but we definitely gave up more. Unfortunately, MLB has a shadow rule that the Yankees only have to pay 70 cents on the dollar for their trades so there is nothing we can do about that.
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Lol The Jays add the best starter available in all of MLB and two good relievers The Yankees also add two good relievers and a bunch of slop and somehow we are doomed while the Yankees are destined for playoff greatness Nevermind the fact that we've been beating the breaks off of them all season and have a solid lead AND their best player may have fried his elbow
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He would sign a 1 year 4 million dollar deal with a team option if he were a FA
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So assuming Santander is out and everyone else comes back for the playoffs, our lineup and bench could be something like this: LF- Lukes/Schneider (L/R) DH/RF- Springer 1B- Vlad SS- Bo 3B- Barger (L) C- Kirk CF- Varsho (L) RF/DH- Loperfido/France (L/R) 2B- Gimenez/Clement (L/R) C- Heineman (S) 2B/LF- Schneider 1B- France UT- Clement OF- Straw
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Lol there is no way in hell a slap hitting LF like Roden would be getting 140 million over the next 6 years. He might be a non-tender candidate by the time he enters arb.
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Acquired: Shane Bieber Louis Varland Ty France Seranthony Dominguez Brandon Valenzuala Dealt: Will Wagner Alan Roden Kendry Rojas Khal Stephen Juaron Watts-Brown Solid deadline for the Jays. I believe Bieber was the best starting pitcher traded, even with the TJS? A lot rides on him performing well.
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Ah ok I didn't realize Gil was so close to returning. That helps.
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Cannot believe people think the Yankees had a good deadline Yeah they added some relievers but the rest of it is just a bunch of platoon bats and bench players How did they not add a starting pitcher? I mean hell, we also added two good relievers but we added an SP1 on top of it. The Yankees will be considering Marcus Stroman for playoff games lmao
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First Andrew Chafin and now Patton Oswald Peraza. This infusion of talent is just what the Angels needed to get over the hump.
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If my dad was in the hall of fame I'd be on a major league roster too. I'd even have the same amount of dingers.
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"major leaguer"
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Kind of glad Billy Wagner's son is gone tbh The guy is battling for his career and he takes a weekend off to go to a party for his dad Haven't seen this kind of coattail riding since the last time we had another slap-hitting lefty infielder with a Hall of Fame father (Craig Biggio's son) Good riddance
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These teams aren't even playing right now
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Maybe Ross is loading up on fringe catching prospects to package them together to Pittsburgh for Danny Santana
