Terminator

Oh yeah! Now you're talking.

Yeah with all the free agents we have in the lineup having the rotation locked up is huge.

Who do we have for depth after those five? Bolsinger? Definitely will need to address that. It's been pretty remarkable that we've only used 6 starters this season. Last year it was 12.

That game was huge. Extend Thole while we are at it.

Extend Dickey.

I'm not even sure how Gibbons could rationalize it because yesterday when Donaldson was out and Gibbons wanted to move Bautista down and someone to the leadoff spot he chose Travis, not Pillar, to lead off.

Lol f***. Dickey is going to just have to wear one tonight if he's not on. Probably will go 5 no matter what. I don't know when Bolsinger last pitched but my guess is he's got be ready for multiple innings as well. Barnes setup man and Grilli the closer.

Isn't that something that someone with a mental disorder would say though?

Yeah that wouldn't be a bad idea. You'd think he could come in and throw that slider over and over and get some guys out. If he doesn't find it we may not make the playoffs though! If he struggles this month perhaps we'll see another trade for a SP during the August trade period.

That's great. I bet his parents are really proud of him.

Yeah Grant shouldn't be made fun of for having a mental disability. He should be applauded for having a mental disability and being able to go on baseball message boards and forming somewhat coherent arguments like he does. It's pretty impressive actually.

Does Grant really have a mental disorder? He seems to be at least somewhat high functioning if so.

A team will have to give up a first rounder on top of it. I could definitely see him coming back as the DH but we'll see, a good two months and the playoffs can change things.

I didn't really like the Indians deadline. That team is going to win the division and I'm not sure that adding Miller really changes their WS probability all that much. He was a good get but they paid a steep price to acquire him. I didn't like the Giants deadline either. Duffy was a star player last year and is better than Matt Moore in his own right. Throw in the prospects and its a big package for a guy who doesn't project to be much better than Wade Miley. As for their other trade, Susac won't be missed but he's not a bad player and throwing in Bickford is a lot for Will Smith. At least Smith isn't a rental. That trade probably wasn't as bad as the Matt Moore trade and is something I could live with as a Giants fan.

I think his argument is that we didn't add a whole lot and Hutch and 17 million is what we gave up. That could be true but look at the prices for players acquired this year. The prices were kind of crazy. Would you rather have Upton (5 mil for a season and a half) for nothing or Beltran for (5 mil for half a season) and give up your #2 prospect (according to fangraphs)? The Liriano trade is really tricky to evaluate but he hasn't lost his velocity, projects better than Hutch and we get two Top 100 prospects. Those two guys are definitely in our Top 10. Yeah we take on about 15 mil in added salary but it's probably worth it and if Liriano turns it around it's definitely worth it. Especially if being #1 in attendance leads to a larger budget. Admin (he's Juiced right?) is probably right in that calling these moves "amazing" might be overkill but I think they were some pretty nifty trades that helped us out for this year and next year and other than the payroll commitment and Hutch is may be a AAAA player anyway we didn't lose much. If we truly would have made major upgrades the already weak farm would have been completely decimated.

Lol this is a pretty solid rant and it's got some pretty good points.

Getting a feeling that Sanchez's next start in KC could be his last for the year. We really need Francisco Liriano to pitch well down the stretch.

Thanks. I think my descriptions of what we gave up could probably apply to what we got as well though haha. Upton being the worst player in baseball two years in a row before and injury riddled '15 and this year, Benoit and Bolsinger suck, Feldman isn't very good, etc. But I think overall we improved the big league team and the farm and didn't give up a whole lot other than eating some salary to do it.

When all the dust settles Shulz probably optioned. When Carrera comes back they may take him over Goins depending on the health of the infield. I guess they only need to make it one month until September and then they can both of them and Shulz and whoever else they want. Carrera might make more sense than Goins in the playoffs anyway. He can be used along with Upton to replace the corner OF defense and he's also a better pinch runner and pinch hitter.

So in summary, here's what we exchanged at the 2016 deadline. -Upton -Benoit -Bolsinger -Feldman -Liriano -Two pretty much consensus 2016 Pre-Season Top 100 prospects in McGuire and Ramirez. for: -Taking on 5 mil of Upton's contract and all of Liriano's. -Two RP's pitching like s*** and were FA at the end of the year. -Hutch -Some lottery ticket prospects That's oversimplified but I really like this trade deadline for the Jays. Seems like our major league team got better and so did our farm system.

Reese McGuire and Harold Ramirez were the #3 and #5 ranked prospects for the Pirates this year according to Fangraphs.

The only thing I don't like about this deal is that it's a net wash as far as depth is concerned. Sanchez to the BP, Liriano to the rotation in some form or fashion. What happens if Estrada's back flares up on him? No Hutch anymore. Does that mean we throw Scott Diamond in the rotation down the stretch? I guess there is always the waiver trade period.

Apparently Feldman just walked over to the other dugout and changed his jersey and is available tonight.

Lol damn.

So 17 mil is Liriano's remaining salary? And 2.3 is Hutch's? How did you reach that number with Hutch? 2.3 is his salary this year. What will it be next year? Will he be Arb 2?