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You could get a good programmer for 50,000 if you were willing to hire someone out of school. Anyway this situation is incredible. Rogers can't hire a programmer?? Beeston and AA are just out of touch with the world. I'm sure they have the same distaste for programmers that wall street does. But Wall Street will eat their own s*** if they can sell it for more when it comes back out. That's the difference between Henry and Beeston (and I know Beeston isn't the owner, but he's in charge). Henry probably hates programmers too, Programmers are distasteful dirty little bastards, but Henry will hire one for 100,000 if the programmer can make him 110,000 back. Henry knows a little math. Beeston views things as a politician, he hires his friends only, and he's not friends with any programmers.

Had to come back here and calm down a bit. Got a little riled up after hearing the Beest doesn't respect programmers. Beest is in control of team with 120,000,000 payroll and won't hire programmer for 1/1000th that much?? Does Beest know 100,000 is 1/1000 of the payroll?? He must he used to be an accountant. I think he is just trying to diss technical people. Anyway. He is just one guy. Wall street actually kind of respects us and will pay a few hundred thousands to make some program that makes them billions. They don't like us but are just smarter then the Beest and know a little basic math. OK. I'm starting to rant again. Go to my calm place. 82-80... 82-80... 100 programmers can't change it... at least not for 7 years.

I believe the problem is a political one. A programmer would use logic and common sense. This is an organization with their heads in the sand. Crazy people. Batshit crazy. Kind of like banking managers in 2008. They hate programmers. They hate any form of logic. They love Cito and Joe Carter's homer. Their entire lives are jokes. Beeston is a dismal fragment of dog s*** two bit accountant that won a lottery (put in charge after Gillick and Hardy did the work). Programmer - in order to do my job I will have to use a system of logic that may not be complementary to your batshit crazy viewpoints. Beest - f*** YOU. YOU ARE DOG s***. WE WILL PAY A PROGRAMMER 18,000 a year and not a DOLLAR MORE. THIS IS WAR. IT IS US AGAINST THEM. LOGIC WILL NOT WIN. The f***ing suits will rule the earth and the programmers must live in poverty. (gets on phone on with secratary) Betty, throw a $400,000 bonus at a suit. I don't care which one. Any one. It's just to make a point. Show the programmer's their place. In my house programmers need to know their place. 18,000 a year 16 hours a day and they get coffee for suits earning 20 times as much working 16 hours a week. THIS IS WAR. CRUSH THE PROGRAMMERS. THE SUITS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH. LOGIC MUST DIE. I AM THE BEEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! deep breath (ok I am not calm any more, programmers need to be respected, we will crush the Beest eventually, he knows this and is just fighting hard with his last breath).

Sorry SAAviour... the only one here who knows the real deal is our friend Smedley... The cocaine and hoes must clear his brain somehow. I'm guilty of being an old road apple talking about s*** that happened in '88... so let me bring up 2009 http://www.baseball-reference.com/games/standings.cgi?date=2009-05-17 This link here will take you to the Jays record after 40 games in 2009. 26-14. Were you there?? If so were you calm?? You should of been. I wasn't, I thought the World Series was coming back for sure. Stay calm Even 12 games over after 40 wasn't the real deal. No matter what happens keep calm.

20-20 on the way to 82. The shitballers are slowly merging together towards their final 30-22 4.05. Will Buerhle wiin 30?? Keep calm you idiots he will not. Dickey and Buerhle will win 30 together though. By the end of the season I bet you won't be able to tell the difference between them. The season of calm continues...

Yes the legend of Mike Wilner... it seems to now be part of team lore... right next to Carter's homerun. Wilner's last stand. Wilner survived but his testicles did not.

I don't know. Hopefully he can see a competitive team in 10 or 15 years... I mean as a new fan it wouldn't be that satisfying to have victory from day 1... would it?? It might be more healthy for him to suffer a bit. Beeston's retirement and all won't be to meaningful for him... then hopefully he can grow as a fan of the new regime whoever that is. Watch the team struggle for a couple years..,. then the rebuild then in 2021 or so... victory... most of us will be crazy by then... but I think he will really enjoy the whole process as a new fan.

I would highly recommend anything by Bill James from teh 1980s or early 90s. He wrote a series of abstracts which basically combined stats and little essays to tell the story of the previous season. It is like the ground work for the modern analytics. The guy was a genius. He wrote programs to simulate entire seasons on a commodore 64 or something. He came up with all kinds of cool ways to evaluate hitters and defense and pitchers. He was really revoluationary. It seems obvious in retrospect but he came up with all this stuff by himself... no internet to look up this stuff. Take anything anybody says about Mike Wilner or another guy "Stoeten" with a grain of salt. Those two aren't really respected around here. Most of the media isn't. Media is sort of viewed as sell-outs. I guess they have to be "respectful" to the Jays management in order to get interviews and their jobs in the first plays and such... But most of the media people are viewed as coorporate sell-outs around these parts. John Lott and Shi Davida are the best media guys. They wrote a decent book called "Great Expectations" which was critical of the Jays 2013 season. Obviously they had the benefic of retrospect. Jeff Blair wrote a book calling AA a genius (Full Count) before the 2013 season... thus he is viewed as a bit of an idiot.

Keeping Kawasaki down and calling up useless s*** is a move only this franchise can make. Insult both the analytic guys and the casuals in one swoop. Analytic guy -- what the f***?? why call up these useless shits who are going to be negative WAR when Kawasaki might contributute just a tiny bit and be slightly positive WAR?? Casual - what the f*** is WAR?? Who the f*** is Diaz?? Who the f*** is Getz?? Where's the Japanese guy?? He had a walk off last year. I AM JAPANESE! That cracked me up.

Last year was the year of the rant. f***! NO! WE SOLD THE FARM FOR THIS?? BEESTON!! IT'S STILL CITO'S FAULT! ALL-CAPS! f*** YOU! This year is just... run of the mill. 75 wins?? 82 wins?? Who the f*** knows, who the f*** cares. Attendance is down. Board traffic looks like it down. Ranting is down. Interest is down. Snoozing is up. Is this season even really happening?? I have no idea what f***ing year it is... 2005 maybe?? Or 2008?? 2008. Gibby is going to get fired for Cito soon... right??

Smedley are you still with us?? Someone on the board said they were headed for a weekend of Cocaine and ladies. I think it was you. Not my cup of tea exactly. I'm just a married guy now and nursing a beer takes to much out of me these days. Anyway sounds like more fun then watching the Jays the last few days. Just hope you came out the other side OK. Your wisdom is appreciated. Friday morning I took out my 92/93 World Series commemerative T-shirts and hats out and imagined what the 2014 version will look like. Monday morning I am thinking about the race for a top 5 draft pick. But gotta keep calm. We are headed for 82-80. Just enough for Beeston and AA to survive (Gibby probably won't). 82-80 has a few little ups and downs on the way. Nothing major. Some days will be a couple under .500. Somedays a couple over. Headed nowhere interesting either way. Gotta keep calm cause there is nothing worth getting excited over.

I would say it does.. unless you are really dinging Delgado for his defense.

Nice list. I don't see Joe Carter, but you'd have to spend time going all the way down to 50th. Vernon probably should not be there if you are considering hitting only.

Holy s***. If for real have fun, Hope you make it back for Monday.

I think he needs a couple more 150ish years. I think he is the leader in terms of OPS+. The other stats probably work out about the same. I think he is behind Delgado in raw numbers ahead when adjusted for era. So a couple more great seasons and he's number one. A couple more so/so seasons with injuries and it will be hard to argue because he only had 2 healthy great seasons.

1998 -- I was driving back from a camping trip in early September. I was in the middle of no where for 10 days and was only getting fragments of games on an old Sony Walkman. Tom Cheek was still alive. Somehow Jays went from complete losers at the beginning of the trip to world series bound by the end... I didn't really hear the details... just like these fragments through the static... but I knew they had won 10 in a row somehow. So driving back finally and the Jays are playing Cleveland... I'm finally headed back to civilization, TV, and the opportunity to watch the pennant race. Jays are leading 3-0 in the 8th on their way to the f***ing pennant, finally near Toronto and getting clear reception. Now I can vividly hear Tom Cheek's description of the glory and soon will be able to see it on TV. Then s*** happens. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR199809090.shtml Next thing it's November and I found out Tim Johnson didn't really go to Vietnam and Roger Clemens demands a trade. Thanks for the reminder Smedley. I quickly forget all the hard lessons I've learned.

I agree with you to some extent. I still think it is a true talent 82 win team. That just means they'll win somewhere between 75 and 89 depending on luck. So things could get exciting in a weak division. I also like what I see from the offence so far. If they can get Lawrie healthy and comfortable at second it could be an A.L. east worthy offense. I mean Rasmus or Lawrie could be 25-100 from the 8th spot... 1-5 can all get on base... then the guys at the bottom... who the hell knows... Lawrie and Rasmus could put together great stretches... Francisco?? Don't see him elite... but if he can handle third and Lawrie second you have some pop at those positions. So I actually see a road to success... Lawrie handles second, Francisco handles third, deep offense carries the team, slop ballers and young pitchers just have to be average. Who the hell knows. I am probably leaving calmness mode and getting too excited over this silly 5 game winning streak. We probably all thought playoffs were easy last year after 11 wins in a row and Reyes ready for action. Keep calm. No highs no lows as they hover around .500. If they get 10 over .500 or 10 below react then.

I first started following in 88 and 89. In those days .500 was a significant step to greater glory. In 1988 once they hit .500 in July or August they went streaking all the way to 87 or 88 wins. The only thing that stopped them was time itself as they ran out of it. In 1989 once they hit .500 in July or August they went streaking all the to 89 wins. This time not time and certainly not the Baltimore Orioles could stop them. On the last Friday of the season they beat Baltimore on a Loyld Moseby single of the wall. Fergie Oliver pissed himself with excitement. The point is .500 wasn't just .500. It was a step to glory, once they hit it there was no stopping the team. However since 1994 we probably hit .500 100 times on a small winnning streak... like last year they hit .500 on that 11 game streak... but nothing ever came of it. Is this the spectacular road to glory .500 of the late 80s?? Or the insignificant .500 of the last 20 years??

I tend to agree that it is just luck.

17-17 on the way to 82-80... nothing to get excited about. s*** ballers - 3.5 era... not bad. Diabetic brothers - one on D.L. one not. Melky and Reyes - one hot, one not. EE and Bautista - exactly as expected, Bautista a bit hotter then EE. 2b - throwing various s*** out there is any of it going to stick?? Might as well keep giving Lawrie reps at second cause finding a second basemen OR a third basemen is easier then finding a second basemen. What else?? Yeah bullpen sucks. It's all just flipping coins. Sometimes it's heads, sometimes it's tails. 82-80 my friends. Could end up 87-75 and sneak into 2nd wild card... just kind of luck at this point.

I haven't looked at djf much this year. Obviously that blog gets me riled up and angry.

Have been put of country for the week. Headed back and thought I'd check in and make sure every one is still calm... Apparently not but I'm calm still... 1. I like that everybody is mostly healthy and Brett Lawrie has been played at 2nd. Gives more options down the road. 2. Cecil Delawar can't be as bad as santos who must be injured. 3. Stroman ready?? Keep calm if you can. If not it is ok too. Go on a crazy rant if you have to.

Thanks. It was a few years ago. He dropped dead at 90 cooking bacon in his own kitchen. Probably gone before he hit the floor. Not a bad way to go. We saw Cecil fielder hit his first homer in in 1985.

Internet access may be sketchy this week... we will see. Nothing to be concerned about. Hopefully the Jays are a nice respectable 15-15 when I get back.

The comments bring back memories... I sat in exhibition stadium for the first time in 1985 with Grandpa... He's gone too. Then there was this... "prediction for 2011 Jays 90 wins ....Drabek Rookie of the Year...runner up Arencibia! LETS PLAY BALL!" Reminds me of the Garth Brooks song "And now I'm glad I didn't know The way it all would end the way it all would go"