saskjayfan

you struggling to grasp the English language? You said the following: "This is extremely hypocritical. You were just rambling to me about how I make broad assumptions of people and activities I know very little about..and in the next post you go onto say how I am a "stay at home nerd" who doesn't play sports at all. In this post you have shown you are probably just as immature as GD or I. I can't speak for Gordie but I have played a high level of competitive sports all my life. " Cooler heads said the following: "You know what would be funny is if you two turned out just to be stay at home nerds who don't compete well in any sports at all. I suspect this might even be true the absurd way you go on at times on this forum. If sports were just about stats and generalities there would be no point in them at all, I prefer competing myself but can relate well to team sports because I've played and coached them my whole life." 1. You said cooler heads called you a stay at home nerd. Fact. Cooler head said he suspected you may be a stay at home nerd...he did not definitively say you were one with no athletic ability. I simply noted he probably came to this conclusion because you have more than 10,000 posts..lol 2. Cooler heads is 50....i'm 38...both of us have gone through the aging process...Cooler heads more than me as he is older...and more importantly he's stated that he's quite the athlete so when he talks about an athlete aging he's actually gone through the process. You assume you know better despite the fact that you have never had the experiences because you are in your 20s...(I remember when I was 20 and knew everything...lol) Dickey did not necessarily have back issues because he is old..athletes get injured all the time..and you do see 22 year olds on the dl as well.....Knuckleballers age well and he could very well bounce back and have a very good year. 3. Nothing I'm going to type will change your mind because you're never wrong...are you...lol

I think cooler heads is making the assumption that anyone with over 10,000 posts is a stay at home nerd....not exactly an uncalculated assumption..lol. You are assuming Dickey had back issues because he's an old man....perhaps you are a high level athelete(you know beer pong does not qualify as a sport)....and perhaps Dickey's injuries were ones that he would have also sustained if he was 21 years old. It's not unreasonable to assume that older people are more injury prone...but you're not dead at 38 either.....Dickey pitched better in the second half..but I also think it wasn't just his injuries...he was adjusting to leagues, surroundings and expectations. As much as the Jays had a ton of pressure this year....next year will be almost the exact opposite....most of you have them pegged for 75 to 80 wins....I expect Dickey to perform much better next year as knuckleballers tend to age well....

Chad Henne would not be a good qb....what exactly in my post is completely wrong. What part was incorrect. I never denied the top skill players are in the states....as far as the jags go the have drew...and not much more.....qb is the most important position in football.....the riders would lose to some nfl teams in the cfl format...but not the jags...

what true comment did you make..lol You are disagreeing with the opinion of hall of famer Warren Moon....does that mean you know about football and he doesn't?..lol What comments did I make that were untrue? Was Ricky Williams not a failure in the CFL? Was Cam Wake not a success in the NFL. Is Freeman not a success in the NFL. Are they not professionals?

The Riders would beat the jags if they played cfl rules...they would lose if they played nfl rules...chad henne would throw 4 picks if you played cfl rules..

First off...there are over 100 division one teams in the College football...There are 32 NFL teams...only a handful of roster spots turn over every year. Only a handful of stars make the NFL...a few more play the cfl and many college football stars never progress to play professional football because it's not that easy to crack either an NFL or a CFL roster. You can understand sabermetrics for baseball, but a much more simplistic statistical principal relating to football escapes you? Most CFL players are not fringe college players. Secondly, you do not understand the fundamental differences between the two games. They are different games that require different skill sets. The NFL is a league where power is more important than speed at many positions. This makes sense as the field is 15 yards more narrow and there is no motion to the line of scrimmage. If you think that if suddenly the CFL rules were the ones that had 100 plus million dollar pay roles and that all the NFL players would simply migrate maintain their spots you are mistaken, because many NFLers are not suited to the CFL game. There is plenty of empirical evidence to support these arguments. Ricky Williams not only didn't come to the CFL and rush for 2000 yards, he wasn't close to being the best running back in the league. 2 years after this he rushed for over 1000 yards in the NFL. How do you explain this? Vince Ferragamo made it to the superbowl as the starting qb for the rams....he went on to the cfl where he crashed and burned as one of the worst qbs in the league..he returned to the NFL and had success following his CFL stint. Dexter Manley, Mark Gastineau.....coming at 32 and 33...surely weren't too old to dominate the CFL...nope...they couldn't do a thing in the CFL.....quinten griffin started games at running back for the broncos...couldn't even make it out of training camp with the riders...sinorice moss...started for the giants...came to the riders...talk about a terrible cfl receiver...shaun king, cleo lemon, mike McMahon all brutal qbs...these are just a few examples...there is a list a mile long. Cam Wake played in the CFL...if the talent difference was so huge between the 2 leagues how would it have been possible for him to go to the nfl..not only make an NFL roster and then go on to take joey porters job and then later lead the entire league in sacks. Jerrel Freeman was the riders defensive player of the year and the very next year goes to the colts and not only makes the team but sets the colts single season all time tackles record and was their defensive mvp..again how is this possible. Brandon browner...cfl player...good db, but there were many other dbs of similar quality....he goes to the nfl and makes the pro bowl. How is this possible given your assertions? The difference between Browner and other CFL dbs..is he was taller and stronger..not faster than other cfl dbs...and without motion to the line of scrimmage they play a lot of press coverage, where there is very little press coverage in the cfl unless you're playing for chris jones. No one is denying the elite athlete's are in the NFL. You take Calvin Johnson...size, speed, athleticism, football iq, and good hands. The guy has it all.....but most teams in the NFL don't have a Calvin Johnson. There is a big drop in talent from a calvin Johnson to the 20th best receiver in the league..most receivers have a few of the talents..they may be big, or fast, or have great hands...few have all the skills. Size his a huge requirement for most nfl receivers although their are a few exceptions. You take the difference in talent between the number 20 receiver the 50th best receiver..the gap in talent narrows...from 50 to 80 the talent difference is negligible and difficult to differentiate... In the CFL you have a guy like Ben Cahoon. His skill sets were smarts and elite hands. He has some of the best in pro-football period. He wasn't fast, or big. In the NFL game beating the jam prevented him from playing. If there had been 32 teams playing cfl rules with 100 mil payrolls and 9 teams playing nfl rules with 5 mil payrolls ben definitely would have had a job in the league paying more money because with motion to the line of scrimmage and his smarts he was able to make plays. Google his highlights and you'll see a guy who caught the ball while taking huge hits. It was remarkable the way he was able to make catches and take the hits he took and still be able to hang on to the ball. His hands were far better than many receivers who played NFL football. Weston dressler has 4.4 speed, but he's a midget. He is a great route runner and has good hands...with the motion and bigger field he is an incredible cfl receiver and a lot of fun to watch. You take the to 15% of players in the NFL out of the equation.....there is a lot of parody in the level of talent. The difference between the CFL and NFL is not that big and there are players with skill sets that suit the NFL game and those that suit the CFL game. Many NFLers can not play the CFL game and many CFLers can not play the NFL game and there are a lot of CFL players with great skill that are simply overlooked...some for their entire careers..others the move on and make an immediate impact(see wake and freeman). These are not my words...these are the words of Warren Moon as he described the 2 leagues in a talk I heard him make 2 years ago. I'll go with the hall of fame qb who played in both leagues and has a better understanding of the game than someone like you. If you are a fan of football..I don't see why you wouldn't watch both leagues as their are exciting plays made by players in both leagues. Many are more drawn to fantasy football than the actual game of football itself. I'm more of a fan of the game. How can you watch this clip and say there's not talent and exciting plays in the CFL....give me a break.

that is a typical response of a guy who knows nothing about the league. How can you even comment on the league if you have never seen any games..lol. "CFL players were fringe players in college at best" Darian Durant was a four year starter at UNC and is the Tarheels all time leading passer. You are clueless when it comes to the game of football.

numbers rose the last few years due some renewed excitement....it's funny...people out here talk about the jays like people in Toronto talk about the CFL....yeah...I used to watch the jays...not much anymore...it's been so long since they had a winner.....if they actually made the playoffs and or even competitive throughout the year....their viewership has a lot of room to grow...

TSN is a joint ownership with 80% ownership by Bell media and 20% ownership by ESPN Inc.....they also show lots of curling..lol

The only games in the CFL not televised are the preseason games...

758k to be exact...81 games next year plus 5 playoff games... the grey cup did 4.5 mil so that's like 6 games...and the west semi final drew 1.9 mil..which was more than hockey night in Canada that weekend and the eastern final drew 1.7 mil.... all advertisers care about are viewers...the more viewers you have the more they will pay......the jays at 540K per game was up substantially from 2010 when they drew an average audience of 437K per game.

the jays ownership just dolled out 5.2 billion dollars...screw it...I want tanaka now....what's 75 mil...

I'd rather trade for ianetta myself who has 2 years left on his contract...hanigan is turning 34 next year...

if they give up one of sanchez or stroman plus others for 2 years of samardzija I'm going to be pissed....i'd rather sign bartolo colon for a year or two and keep the prospects..

he's no defensive wizard.....and he was anything but an above average bat last year...

I hope we don't trade rasmus...he seems to like it here...I think we can get a reasonable extension.....gose is never going to be a good player...I hope we get rid of him..

what's so great about castro....other than that he has a controllable contract...

You missed my point. Who's not a question mark when a guy like cc posts a 4.78 era. At catcher it can only get better. Melky will be better, maicer will be better, Lawrie will get better. The offence is very good. The starting pitching has to post a 3.9ish era. I have full confidence in the talent of dickey, buehrle, morrow and the multitude of options for the fifth starter. The jays need a catcher and one starter. We will see what aa does

I think some of you guys get a steamer, just reading the predictions steamer makes....or bill james...roto....etc....Some of you take it as gospel. The only certainty in baseball is there is no certainty. Outside of a handful of Kershaw types...perhaps a few more on the positional player side...what are you going to get out of a player..the variability of players year to year performances is greater as you go down the list. CC sebathia made 23 million dollars last year....you're suppose to get certainty for that price...not a 4.78 ERA....bartolo colon....wtf...he's wasn't suppose to post the numbers he did....john lackey, clay buchholz bounce back....Morrow, buehrle and Dickey have the ability to do very well...they could do terrible.... Throwing in the towel is ridiculous...the jays have a very good offense if you replace jpa with even an average catcher.....hutch, drabek, happ, McGowan, stroman....they need a couple of these guys to step up. The jays need to get a catcher, sign one starting pitcher and get a decent right handed bat for the bench...I can't believe how many people on here would jack off to having the team blown up and getting a ton of prospects....

so Buehrle, morrow, and dickey have no chance to have decent years next year?

it started out as a baseball related topic using the cfl as a reference point to determine blue jay tv revenue....and evolved from there...it is grey cup week...and as the lone cfl fan here I guess I enjoy cfl discussion...there were people responding to my cfl comments..lol. I will speak no further on the cfl in this thread..but seriously....why you guys love banning people so much.. fire AA...there...am I back on solid ground..lol

you're probably right...there's a reason there is only 3 downs..lol. My Riders are going to the cup because of that formidable defense that allowed a league low 22 points a game.....Ticats going down on Sunday!!!!

Everyone has their opinions...I like three down football with extra space allowing for more passing, and more big plays....some prefer the NFL game...it's personal preference...

bombers had great crowds all year, and have a good fan base....as long as the stadium is packed, its a nice summer day...it's a fun affordable outing...it's a shame the bombers didn't compete better.....but that will turn around..the cfl is a league of parity...

The Riders had 18 2 and outs all season...that's an average of one per game...lol. It's really hard to have a CFL discussion with people who never watch it...but you're right..the passion in Saskatchewan is like no other...game day experience here is fantastic....but there are good fans in Calgary, Winnipeg, bc, montreal, hamiton, Edmonton....as well...