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People were lining up for hours outside the Jays Shop purchasing ALDS, ALCS and World Series caps, t-shirts etc. maxing out their credit cards and going all crazy. People can really be 🐑

Both would be icing on the cake, but one is definitely needed. Need to replace Bo's 4 WAR somehow on the positional player front. Whether that's bringing Bo back or signing Bellinger, or trading for Marte.

They don't need Glasnow, Snell or Ohtani to pitch a full season. They just need to get 15-20 season starts from them and then all hands on deck in the Postseason. Like pretty much what they did last season.

What if the Blue Jays signed Tucker to a 10-year deal as were the rumours of what he was being offered? Would other fans quit baseball as well?

I mean, didn't we all want the Blue Jays to spend huge money this offseason as well? Let's not pretend the Blue Jays are a small market team.

Wow so Grant is no longer on this board anymore. Crazy. Wonder if he posts as someone else.

Spanky is getting excited!

I actually like the Cubs signing Alex Bregman. Even if he’s past his absolute peak, he still brings elite plate discipline, solid power, and postseason experience to a lineup that needed a steady middle-order bat. He’s also a clear defensive upgrade at third base and adds veteran leadership from years on winning teams. For a Chicago Cubs roster trying to compete now rather than rebuild, this move raises the floor of both the offense and the clubhouse. Not risk-free, but a smart bet if the goal is winning.

Hopefully we start seeing guys like Bo, Tucker and Bellinger sign this week. Already in the middle of January, and ST is just around the corner! 😁

Statistically, Andy Pettitte has a strong Hall of Fame case, highlighted by a career 68.2 WAR. In another thread, we were discussing several pitchers who deserve to make the Hall with significantly less WAR, which only strengthens his argument. He also brought rare longevity and durability - two traits I personally value highly. Pettitte debuted at 23 and remained an effective MLB pitcher until age 41, consistently taking the ball year after year. Are his numbers eye-popping? Not quite, especially when stacked against truly dominant arms like Randy Johnson or Pedro Martínez. Pettitte wasn’t a strikeout machine, and his lower K rate doesn’t jump off the page. He also benefited from pitching for Yankees teams that dominated the late ’90s and early 2000s, which undoubtedly inflated his win totals. And, of course, his admitted HGH use complicates the conversation. That said, his sustained excellence, workload, and overall value place him firmly in the Hall of Fame discussion - even if he doesn’t fit the traditional “overpowering ace” mold.

This is why Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame. MLB players have taken steroids and PED's for how many decades. Have they really made a huge difference in a players skillset? Kepler couldn't even crack a 90 wRC+ while on PED's. Bonds, regardless, was always a Hall of Fame talent, not because of steroids/PED's.

Buxton definitely would be a nice target. Found a way to stay healthy last season and play in 126 games and put together a 5 WAR season. Even the season before, he posted 3.7 WAR in 102 games. Blue Jays have enough outfielders to rotate in and out of the lineup, where they can keep Buxton healthy and not really lose a beat. Buxton will be 32 and has been injury prone throughout his career, so I think the Twins can only ask for so much. I don't think they'll demand a king's ransom. But who knows. Another nice target could be Royce Lewis. Injury prone but huge upside. Wonder what the Twins would ask for in return.

He’ll also be turning 28 this season. Looking at his career as a whole, he hasn’t been anything special. Even this past season, he posted just 2 WAR. Sure, there’s still some upside if everything clicks, but his body of work to date hasn’t given much reason for excitement.

If the Jays do look to trade Berríos, they’ll likely need to either absorb a bad contract in return or include cash to make the deal work. Javier Báez is one possible option ($23M AAV for two more seasons) compared to Berríos ($19M AAV for three more seasons). That said, it’s not an especially appealing fit - a healthy Berríos is probably the more valuable asset, particularly given how quickly rotation depth can be tested by injuries. Nolan Arenado is another potential target, and his salary over the final two seasons is actually more manageable than it first appears. He’s owed $27M in 2026, with Colorado covering $5M (effectively $22M), followed by $15M in 2027.

This current message board would be obsessed with Andruw Jones today. You all would be wanting Atkins to trade for him lol.

Andruw Jones produced a 67 WAR for his career and was probably one of the best defensive outfielders in the late 90's and early 2000's. Shocked as a big advanced metrics guy that you are, you don't think he deserves to be in. Agree Edmonds should be in as well. He was also a better well rounded offensive player and finished at 64 WAR. Shouldn't discount what Jones has accomplished over his career though.

It's a very deep bench, but I expect some regression especially from Heineman and Lukes/Straw. Also, don't see Lukes getting 438 PA's again, unless someone gets injured. Likely can project each of those guys for 1 WAR or less each.

Yankees sign Paul DeJong to a minor league deal, in response to the Jays Okamoto signing 😂

Sportsnet needs to do better.

Nice, now go out and sign Tucker boom for icing on the cake haha.

Bregman logistically makes the most sense since he can play either 3B or 2B, which allows Gimenez to stick at short, while rolling with Clement either at 2B or 3B (depending on the position Bregman plays). Allows Barger to stay in RF, and the Jays can roll with Santander/Lukes in LF, with Straw as another backup outfielder. Signing Tucker or Bellinger means that you either have to move Barger to 3B or you have to eat Santander's contract, unless you keep Tony around as an expensive bat off the bench who you try to find 200-300AB's for (covering for injuries, days-off, pitching matchups, etc).

Jays need to add another bat regardless, whether that is bringing back Bo or signing a bat like Tucker/Bellinger or Bregman. Need to at least bring in a player who can produce 3-4 WAR. After the World Series run they went on and spending big money earlier in the offseason on Cease, and signing both Rogers and Ponce, don't see why the Jays wouldn't spend money to bring in a bat.

Yeah agreed. It kind of was the same with Berrios. Jays still went out and signed Ponce. I think if Tucker and Bo are both available, Santander won't stop the Jays from signing both.

If Santander is healthy, he is at least is a 2 WAR player who gives you 30 HR's.