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Yeah very frustrating indeed. He could either look like a replacement level 1B or could be an elite power bat. Watch him have a huge season in his contract year. He'll smash 50-60 HR's with a 1.000 OPS haha and be a 7-8 WAR player.

Civale was pretty much the same as Kikuchi in 2023 in terms of value. They've had pretty much similar careers. No 4/5 starters with mid-rotation upside. Kikuchi has been much better than Civale this season though. Civale is cheaper and has one more year left of control, so a team like the Brewers definitely would value him more. At the end of the day, Kikuchi probably brings in the same return as Civale or maybe a bit less. If Kikuchi was pitching like he did in April and in the AL Cy Young conversation, he would have got the Jays a very nice piece.

He's a puppet pretty much for the front office.

Crazy!

You debbie downer!

Only Bryce Harper, Freddie Freeman and Christian Walker have a higher WAR than Vlad. In terms of wRC+ this season, Vlad ranks 3rd amongst all qualifying first baseman. He's turned his season around and is actually producing as one of the top 1B in baseball.

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Yeah I would prefer having Kikuchi as well for a Postseason run. He would be more of a difference maker and could start in a WC matchup or short series for sure. Brewers probably value the extra year of control and low salary. Civale was pretty good last season: 8.53 K/9, 3.57 FIP, 2.5 WAR. At the end of the day, he wasn't any different than what Kikuchi was in 2023. This season, completely different story. Kikuchi has been way better.

Becomes a FA after 2025 so still has one more year left of control. He's nothing special - No. 4/5 starter with a bit of upside though he should fit in well with the Brewers. Gregory Barrios was ranked as No. 21 on the Brewers Top 30 Prospect list. Makes you think the return for Kikuchi might be along the same lines. Kikuchi would be a better arm to have down the stretch but would only be a year rental.

The Padres haha.

A team desperate for starting pitching at the deadline. The question is which contending team could best use him and ignore some of his underlying issues?

He's still providing innings which is a plus and has proven to be durable. Would try to unload his contract however if possible. After 2025/2026, looks like he could be an albatross.

Encouraging outing from YRod today! Would be nice if he could establish himself as a member of the rotation moving forward.

Sucks especially since he's been getting red hot with the bat. Jays can't catch a break this season.

Agreed. Doesn't get the fanfare as Ohtani, Judge, Harper, and some others.

They would have been in a better position standing wise, but this team status quo still would have huge flaws and wouldn't be good enough unless Atkins got creative at the trade deadline.

YRod has looked great! Nice bounce back from him and hope he builds off this start. Looks like he could be a nice rotation piece if he could be consistent!

Yeah Varsho should be in CF and the Jays should have targeted a bat with pop to put in LF, which I think a majority of posters on here preferred. Bringing back KK in an everyday role was a mistake.

Loved Berezin when I was a kid. I remember Berezin was one of the fastest players on the ice. His skill and speed were just top notch. Fun player to watch and cheer for! RIP

That's not bad at all. Glad to see him back!

A 4 game sweep of the Yankees would be awesome!

Would have been nice if the Jays could have got a better player than Varsho for Moreno, but what's done is done now. Varsho is definitely a nice player and has some offensive upside that could still be unlocked. We don't know how the rest of MLB teams valued Moreno but I do think out of all 3 Jays catchers, teams valued Moreno more than let's say Jansen and Kirk. As well, at the time you can't blame the Jays for keeping Kirk/Jansen who were both proven commodities over Moreno. It's a moot point. Overall, the trade has looked good so far even if Varsho doesn't take that next step offensively. Sucks that Kirk turned into a pumpkin, but he still could provide value defensively even with his awful bat. He does need another catcher to pair with since I don't think he could hold up and catch 130-140 games per season. After Jansen leaves, the catching situation doesn't look that promising. I don't think Moreno is toast and it's ridiculous to suggest that given his age. He still could blossom into a very solid offensive player. I bet if Moreno was still on this Jays team, patience would be still be preached with him. But since he was traded and with Arizona, he's now completely a total bust.